Irene:

Obviously a project which is intended to manage devices needs to
interact with the kernel, where the devices actually live.  Although
the reasons you give below are good, you don't give any indication
that there has been any dialog with the appropriate kernel teams to
make sure this project is in-line with their plans, that they intend
to support the needed HAL interfaces, etc.

> Opensolaris is an open community, there's no policy that projects with
> similar functionality should not co-exist in the community. 
> 
> I am not familiar about the other device manager project. I was told
> that both the structure and the GUI are different. If this is the case
> I'd say that it won't hurt to have both these projects on opensolaris. 

Has there been any dialog with the appropriate kernel groups to
ensure that this project will be an ongoing success?  There has been
mention of an existing Device Manager project.  Does this other project
already have the buy-in of the kernel groups?  What is their opinion
of having multiple projects with similar functionality?  Are they
willing to support needed interfaces interfaces for both Device Manager
projects?  What are the issues, if any, in this space?

I would think there would need to be some dialog with the kernel groups
to determine answers to these sorts of questions before making a
decision.

> For Hal Device Manager (the project in discussion which is composed of
> GNOME device manager and HAL support), I have to say that it is
> something that worth the effort. 
> 1. The project is based on HAL, and HAL is now popular in the opensource
> world

Is HAL likewise popular among the specific Solaris teams that this
project would depend upon?  What are these specific teams?

> 2. quite a lot of projects on solaris depends on HAL, it is sensible to
> develop base on the existing architecture.

Right, but I am wondering if the specific projects that HAL Device
Management depends upon use HAL, or plan to use HAL?

> 3. GNOME device manager is now in ubuntu core, which means its value has
> been recognized.
> 4. By utilizing the existing projects in the open source community, I
> would say it will benefit Solaris, since we can both make use of the
> contribution of the community as well as contributing our efforts back.
> This enhances the cooperation between openSolaris and the other
> opensource communities. 

I'd say this is true if we have the buy-in of the Solaris kernel teams
that we would need to work with to make this project a success.  We
may already have such buy-in, but I haven't seen anybody highlight
that there has been any dialog between the teams who need to work
together to make this project a success.

Brian

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