Paul: I applaud the idea of making our testing process more open and public. This is a really great idea. However, the process you suggest seems Solaris-centric. I think we could be taking this idea further.
Since most desktop applications are free/open software, shouldn't we be working more closely with the external free software communities? For example, perhaps the various companies who use GNOME could be working more closely together to share test specifications, testing results, etc. For example, there isn't even a QA specific GNOME mailing list at http://mail.gnome.org/. Perhaps it would be good to similarly suggest to the GNOME community that such a list be created so that QA/QE engineers from different organizations can talk together and work more closely together. In other words, I think we should consider sending our proposal to the external GNOME, Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. mailing lists and see if there is a more general interest with these communities to work more closely together in QA/QE testing efforts. Having said all this, I think there is also value in having a Sun-specific QA desktop mailing list. After all, some aspects of QA testing will be distro specific. I just think we should also be working to work more closely with the external communities as well. Brian > I am Paul Mei, the QE manager for JDS in Beijing. > After discussing with my team and other peoples, I'd like to suggest to > setup one community called desktop-testing. The purpose for it is like: > 1. We want to have one place to share all desktop-testing related > information > We have regularly bi-weekly testing result for desktop. We want to > share our test result in the community, because I heard lots of people > are interested in the desktop quality status, like firefox, flash, > pidgin in opensolaris, IPS GUI ... There are lots of new project > integrated into Desktop, like firefox3, flash 10, metatracker... People > have interest about them, its test plan, its quality, etc. > > 2. Attract and organize more people to involve in desktop-testing > The people outside of Sun can contribute lots for desktop > testing/quality, because they are using the desktop applications for > daily work. Currently we have cooperated with Mozilla community to > organize students in China to do the test day for firefox on Solaris, it > is very helpful for our testing. I hope we can do more through the > desktop-testing community in OpenSolaris. > > My thinking is that it will be one sub-community under desktop community > of OpenSolaris. And there is one link from testing community of > OpenSolaris for it, then people can easily find it from testing community. > I wrote one draft proposal for desktop-testing community. Please give > your suggestion what we need to do for setup one community like this. > Please kindly have a look and give your comments. > > Thanks, > Paul. > * > > ------------------------------------------- > Proposal for desktop-testing community* > > *1. Brief introduction* > OpenSolaris Desktop is based on open source communities, with many > community members directly to those upstream projects. Desktop quality > is very important for OpenSolaris community. Its quality is related with > everyone using OpenSolaris, it is critical for customer. > > *2. Purpose* > Desktop testing is to communicate desktop application testing progress > and its quality, attract and organize people to involve desktop > quality-related work. Desktop testing is related with all applications > in the desktop, like firefox, thunderbird, lightling, gnome, evolution, > flash, Compiz, pidgin, multimedia, Ekiga, Gamin, Vino, A11Y, SSA, > MetaTracker, etc. There are lots of open source community or third > parties involved in desktop testing. There are lots of OpenSolaris > desktop-related testing result in different community, it is hard for > people to find out all the related information from different places. > The desktop-testing community can benefit desktop user and tester if > there are one place to share all the quality information. > *3. Discussion Area in this community* > > Below are some areas in mind: > > _/*GNOME*/_ > * Integrate latest gnome version to OpenSolaris > * Gnome Asia Summit > We are working on this, it will be held on Oct. 2008, Beijing. > > > _/*Mozilla*/_ > * Contribute firefox latest version to mozilla community > * Integrate latest firefox/thunderbird/lightling into OpenSolaris community > * Involve the testday and bugday on mozilla community > > _/*Flash/Acroread*/_ > * Flash 9.4 integration into S10/Nevada, OpenSolaris > * Flash 10 on testing > * Acroread in x86(TBD) > > _/*Multimedia*/_ > * Fluendo/Gstreamer in OpenSolaris > * Realplayer 11 in OpenSolaris > > _/*A11Y*/_ > * A11Y assessment for desktop application > * A11Y bi-weekly testing report > > _/*Compiz/Pidgin/Ekiga/etc > > **Test Day/*//*Bug Day*/_ > Test Day/Bug Day is the event we involve people out-of-Sun to involve > our testing work > Currently we are involving students in China for the desktop application > testing, like firefox, metatracker on Solaris. It will extend in gnome > and other applications > > > _/*New applications integration*/_ > There will be lots of new applications integrated into Desktop. * Ubuntu > parity applications testing for OpenSolaris, it is targeted OpenSolaris > Nov. * Printing enhancement > * IPS GUI, etc > > _/*Automation Testing*/_ > We have done lots of automation work for Desktop applications: > * Automation testing development for gnome > * Automation testing development for A11Y > * Automation testing result based on bi-weekly build > > _/*Process*/_ > * Make some guideline how to involve the desktop tesing > * Test Case Management tool > ApTest: test case managment tool, we have evaluated some test case > managment tool. ApTest is the tool we are using, and hope it can be used > in OpenSolaris community for desktop testing. It can save all test > cases, test result, test session in it. > * Bug System > Bugster/OpenSolaris bugzilla > > *4. Communication* > * mail alias: we want to setup one mail alias to discuss about desktop > quality and testing > * IRC: Setup one channel for it > > *5. Sponsor core contributor and on-work engineers* > Dave Lin (core contributor) > Alfred Peng (core contributor) > > Patrick Gu (contributor) > Emily Chen (contributor) > Conny Cheng (contributor) > Ava Zhang (contributor) > Tony Yuan (contributor) > Tim Miao (contributor) > Vicky Sun (contributor) > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > desktop-discuss mailing list > desktop-discuss at opensolaris.org
