Hi Frank,

In OpenSolaris 2008.11 UI spec, it defines Firefox default font as  
"Deja Vu Serif: 14pt".
I don't think we should do that.
Because IE, Safari, Firefox all use 16pt as default, so web developers  
would test their pages with this setting.
If we use a smaller font, it may break the layout of some pages.
Yes, it's the fault of the web developers, they should specify the  
font size to make sure it won't happen.
But the reality is not all the web developers would test their pages  
with different settings.
So I think we'd better keep align with others.

Thanks,

Ginn

On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Frank Ludolph wrote:

> Hi Jedy,
>
> I'll reply since I was the one that suggested the sizes...
>
> Be sure to distinguish the system font sizes (8 pt) from the font  
> sizes for Thunderbird and Firefox. The latter are larger. What are  
> you using to read emails.
>
> I agree that the sizes sound quite small, but the default GNOME  
> default fonts look very, very large compared to the defaults on  
> Windows and Mac. The sizes shown in the UI spec provide  
> approximately the same appearance as those desktops. To arrive at  
> them I ran 2008.05 under virtualbox on Windows XP in an alternate  
> workspace and switched between Windows and OpenSolaris workspaces.  
> To test the system fonts I used preferences panels, menus, file  
> manager windows, etc. As a cross check I set the same sizes on a  
> bare metal install on a laptop.
>
> This applies of course to roman character sets. Asian fonts may  
> require something else?
>
> The same techniques were used to set the icon sizes.
>
> BTW, my eyesight is now quite poor. I find the suggested sizes to be  
> legible though occasionally a size too small for my old eyes.
>
> Frank
>
>
> Jedy Wang wrote:
>>
>> Hi Calum,
>>
>> Are you really sure that default font size for GNOME is 8 pt? This  
>> size
>> is really small and make it very hard to read mails.
>>
>> Developers of firefox also think 14/12 is too small for the  
>> browser. And
>> according to their feedback, most browsers use 16.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jedy
>> On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:41 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
>>
>>> Since we didn't quite get around to implementing the UI spec for
>>> 2008.05, we've recently been tweaking it a bit for 2008.11 (and have
>>> actually assigned people to make it happen this time...)
>>>
>>> <http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/uispecs/indiana- 
>>> uispec/>
>>>
>>> Comments welcome... it hasn't really changed too much since what  
>>> we'd
>>> planned for 2008.05, bar a bit more panel reshuffling (to try and
>>> achieve a functional split of "actions and status" on top and  
>>> "windows
>>> and workspaces" on the bottom), and some minor changes to  
>>> accommodate
>>> upstream changes in GNOME 2.24.
>>>
>>> Cheeri,
>>> Calum.
>>>
>>>
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Ginn Chen
Software Engineer, Browser Team
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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