And I think at least vosky provides OTA or FOTA himself. Explains why Ben sees 
no updates :-).

dattaz a écrit :
> FYI : Support of Nexus 4 and 5 should be keep.
> People use it (http://ffos.vosky.fr/ ; nexus 5)
> (https://yalam.co.uk/b2g/mako/ ; nexus 4) and the are need.
>
> dattaz
> Le 23/07/2015 16:08, Shawn Huang a écrit :>> I agree with Thomas, we still 
> need to make sure gecko can survive across
>> different Android HAL API version.
>>
>> I also heard that flame is going to be phased out and flaem-l is no longer
>> be supported, only z3c (aries-l) will be supported. Is it true? If it's
>> true, what's the proper device for community developers to test with in the
>> future?
>>
>> On 23 July 2015 at 21:45, Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmerm...@mozilla.com> 
>> wrote:>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Am 23.07.2015 um 15:17 schrieb Ryan VanderMeulen:>>>> We run regular builds 
>>> in automation for the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. Is
>>>> anybody still using these or can we safely turn them off? If we want
>>>> them still, we should probably get them running on Taskcluster at this
>>>> point.>>> I don't use my Nexus 4 on a regular base, but I wouldn't like 
>>>> them to
>>> slowly bit-rot.
>>>
>>>  * They are very easy to use for full-stack development, so contributors
>>> might depend on them.
>>>
>>>  * I have a power harness for the Nexus 4.
>>>
>>>  * I occasionally use the Nexus 4 for testing JB compatibility.
>>>
>>> If we ever want to deliver updates directly from Mozilla, we need a
>>> strategy for testing all the older devices. I'd like to encourage the
>>> creation of a set of legacy devices that consists of such older
>>> hardware. Anything that is considered 'legacy' would get the full set of
>>> automated tests with m-c on master once per week. This way we can spot
>>> problems in a timely manner without overloading our test infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Thomas>>>> -Ryan
>>>>
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