I like the idea of a web-first device, and I believe that we can do much
better than the marketplace approach, in particular now that we have
Service Workers, but I think you'll need to come up with a very strong
pitch to get Mozilla to try that.


So let me ask the first few pitch questions :)

1/ Who would use it? Market trends indicate that by now, at least in
rich countries, most people who want a tablet already have one and have
no incentive to change.

2/ Who would build the hardware? Experience shows that working with
hardware partners is &*^%*&^ hard.

2bis/ Ok, you propose to flash it on top of an Android, until success,
but who would do that when it only has a subset of the features of Android?

3/ What's the benefit for the Web and/or Mozilla's mission?

Cheers,
 David

On 09/02/16 18:14, Benjamin Francis wrote:
> Dear Firefox OS Community,
> 
> As you know, Firefox OS for smartphones is going to be "sunset
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.fxos/q23oHD8fXHY/jg6cAT-tBwAJ>"
> after version 2.6 as the Connected Devices team at Mozilla expands into
> new types of connected devices. Firefox OS will continue to be used for
> Smart TVs and will be evaluated for its suitability for other product
> proposals going through a new Product Innovation Process
> <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Connected_Devices/Product_Innovation_Process>
> at Mozilla.
> 
> A little known fact is that tablets were actually the original target
> form factor for B2G, but once we partnered with mobile carriers they
> were more interested in smartphones, which is why we ended up building
> smartphones. I believe that tablets are, and always were, a more
> suitable target for Firefox OS than smartphones.
> 
> I'm considering pitching a product proposal to the Product Innovation
> Board at Mozilla for a simple tablet device dedicated to using the web.
> The idea is that the entire device is a web browser. There's no app
> store, no packaged apps, no built-in apps and no app install process.
> The home screen is automatically populated with your top sites based on
> frecency and web content is front and centre. This would be pitched as a
> secondary device for casual web browsing and entertainment, and as a
> companion/control device for smart TVs and other connected devices in
> the home.
> 
> As the Connected Devices team at Mozilla expands into new product areas,
> there is an ongoing discussion about how to simplify the Firefox OS
> stack to make it is more manageable to maintain going forwards. This
> proposal would be in support of that effort as a use case for a
> drastically simpler Firefox OS architecture with less features and a
> much smaller API surface than the smartphone product. That also makes
> this proposal different to the previous tablet project, which was really
> just a scaled up version of the smartphone UI.
> 
> Remember this is just an idea at this point and it doesn't have Mozilla
> approval, it hasn't even got to gate 0
> <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Connected_Devices/Product_Innovation_Process#Process_.22Gates.22>
> of the innovation process. But if this product were to succeed I think
> it would require a small core team of full time Mozilla staff supported
> by a large community effort. I would expect it to be developed first as
> an open source project you can flash onto off-the-shelf Android tablets,
> and only turned into a commercial product if it demonstrated the
> necessary level of success. It's for this reason that I'm sharing this
> very early stage idea here, to gauge the level of interest from the
> community.
> 
> You can find some information on the wiki
> <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_Pad> and a very early draft of a
> presentation
> <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WqFOsf6M2iRIjJbzwYIgTh6OguZALRnrEn5SVawE1gs/present#slide=id.p>
> to pitch the idea to the Product Innovation Board. Let me know what you
> think, and whether this is something you'd be interested in contributing to.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
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