On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 09:40:12PM -0400, Ben Kelly wrote:
> On Jul 19, 2017 8:57 PM, "Mike Hommey" <m...@glandium.org> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 08:48:45PM -0400, Ben Kelly wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 2017 6:20 PM, "Mike Hommey" <m...@glandium.org> wrote:
> >
> > > What would be the rationale behind this choice?
> >
> > Smaller memory footprint, which, you'll admit, when you're on a machine
> > with (less than) 2GB RAM, makes a difference.
> >
> >
> > I thought we had data that showed OOM (small) due to VM fragmentation
> still
> > outweighed OOM (large) on these machines.  If that is the case 64-bit is
> > strictly better.
> 
> I don't believe you can exhaust the address space and have VM
> fragmentation be an actual problem when you have less than 2GB RAM. Of
> if you do, everything is slow to a crawl before that happens.
> 
> 
> I don't understand why that would be, but if so it should show in
> crashstats as fewer small OOMs on these devices.  Does the data actually
> show that?

I don't know. Can that be filtered?

> Also, that tells nothing about people that never hit OOM (a lot of
> people even close their browser well before that could happen).
> 
> 
> You're saying the size difference between 32-bit and 64-bit is so great
> users will start manually shutting down?  I find that hard to believe.  If
> they are shutting down apps to save memory they will probably do it with
> both 32-bit and 64-bit.  Again, though, in theory we have usage hour
> telemetry we could look at to confirm (although maybe only for beta?).

I'm not saying they shut down because of memory. I'm saying a surprising
lot of people have browser sessions that don't last more than 5 minutes
(I've heard multiple times in the past years that we found that out from
our data).
Those people are not going to see OOM.

Mike

PS: your mailer likes to not put quotation marks, making your messages
hard to follow. I thought that was because it's sending both a text and
an html version, and the text version sucks, but it appears it's not
sending an html version...
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