Right but that's a very vague and general statement. Why won't an old root 
work? Which root store are they using? Did they actually try MD5 certs that 
are automatically blocked? All of the details about what's been tried are 
unknown.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gervase Markham [mailto:g...@mozilla.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:11 AM
To: Jeremy Rowley; Rob Stradling; 
mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
Cc: Kathleen Wilson; Richard Barnes
Subject: Re: Proposed limited exception to SHA-1 issuance

On 24/02/16 15:45, Jeremy Rowley wrote:
> I think Rob's questions are great and should be answered before deciding.
> Many CAs have roots and can issue certs that browsers will simply reject.
> There may be a simple way to provide them certs without issuing a ton
> of SHA1s that are placed on OneCRL.

As noted during the CAB Forum meeting where this was discussed: they have 
200,000+ devices affected, and the "use an old or decommissioned or otherwise 
non-BR root" plan works with 90% of them, but not all. That was plan A, and it 
didn't work. We are now on plan B.

Gerv

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