Ryan,
I agree completely that we shouldn't imply fundamental guilt by
association. However, WoSign threatened legal actions against Itzhak
Daniel's disclosure compiled purely from public sources. I just want to
make sure the disclosure was not buried after the content was taken down.

Richard, the CEO of WoSign, stated "From the screenshot, we know why Percy
hate WoSign so deeply, we know he represent which CA, everything is clear
now." The screenshot refers to
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/k9PBmyLCi8I/5Lelu0oyDQAJ
and the screenshot proves WoSign is actively misleading the public.
He further seems to think I'm working for Let's Encrypt and consequently
want to undermine WoSign. It is he that needs to answer the questions and
concerned raised rather than discrediting the questioners
or threatening legal actions. For the record, I'm not and have not worked
for Let's Encrypt or any CA.

Percy Alpha(PGP
<https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xF30D100F7FE124AE>)


On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ryan Sleevi <r...@sleevi.com> wrote:

> Percy,
>
> As I suggested in the other thread, this does not seem a productive or
> fruitful line of inquiry, nor does it seem relevant to the issue at hand,
> nor does it seem to be done respectfully.
>
> That is, the extent of the country of origin of a CA is not itself a
> fundamental issue of trust, nor should translation errors be. I agree that
> there's a line where elements such as actively misleading the public become
> a matter of public concern, but let's try not to suggest there is something
> wrong with being from a particular country, nor that it represents proof of
> wrongdoing.
>
> I believe we are on the cusp of crossing a line here, and would love if we
> could focus on the technical and factual issues, without attempting to
> imply fundamental guilt by association or pseudo-phrenological analysis of
> speech patterns to show some form of wrongdoing.
>
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