Works for me. Any idea on when Mozilla is planning to permit Curve22519 and 
Curve448? I’d like to plan for that date.

 

From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rbar...@mozilla.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:04 PM
To: Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com>
Cc: Hanno Böck <ha...@hboeck.de>; r...@sleevi.com; 
mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Other Curves

 

Unfortunately, despite the Bitcoin community's enthusiasm, secp256k1 has very 
bad side-channel properties:

https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/161.pdf
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1051509

Overall, I agree with Ryan that proliferation in this space is to be avoided.  
I expect that the only real non-NIST algorithm we will expect to support in the 
near term is EdDSA.

--Richard

 

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com 
<mailto:jeremy.row...@digicert.com> > wrote:

I think I should mention that I suggested secp256k1 for blockchain reasons...

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Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 3:52 PM
To: Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com 
<mailto:jeremy.row...@digicert.com> >
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Subject: Re: Other Curves

On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 22:38:54 +0000
Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.row...@digicert.com <mailto:jeremy.row...@digicert.com> > 
wrote:

> Some of these curves are considered much better than the NIST curves
> (well, that’s what I’ve read anyway).

Overall they have mostly the same weaknesses than the NIST curves.
There are differences in detail, but it really doesn't justify introducing a 
lot of variety in the ecosystem. But I have a pretty good idea where that 
hearsay comes from, and I'm pretty sure it has little to do with security.

The modern curves like Curve25519 and Curve448 avoid many of the security 
pitfalls of older curves. If you want more secure curves look at them and push 
standards forward so they can be used within X.509.

--
Hanno Böck
https://hboeck.de/

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