On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> Hi Cory,
>
> On 11/05/17 15:21, Cory Benfield wrote:
> > While I’m very supportive of this kind of remediation, it is not a
> remediation that non-browser implementations can follow very easily.
>
> Unfortunately, this is not a good enough reason to remove graduate trust
> proposals from our arsenal of possible remedies for issues. Because if
> the choice is only "trust everything" or "do not trust anything" from a
> particular root, we have no mitigations for the Too Big To Fail problem.
>

I don't think Cory's arguing against browsers making use of these types of
remediations, he just wants the non-browser clients to be able to
participate as well :-)


>
> > If Mozilla is interested in doing a substantial public service, this
> situation could be improved by having Mozilla and MDSP define a static
> configuration format that expresses the graduated trust rules as data, not
> code.
>
> The trouble with this is that the vocabulary of such a format is almost
> unbounded. It effectively has to be code, rather than data, because we
> could in the future make any number of rules about certificates based on
> any number of criteria.
>
> So we decided to use English instead, which is why this exists:
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/Additional_Trust_Changes
>
> Gerv
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Alex
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