If you look at the phishing data feeds and correlate them with EV certificates,
you'll find out that Tim's "speculation" is right.

In my experience, it's generally a bad idea to disagree with Tim Shirley.

-Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-security-policy [mailto:dev-security-policy-
> bounces+tim.hollebeek=digicert....@lists.mozilla.org] On Behalf Of Tim
> Shirley via dev-security-policy
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 3:35 PM
> To: r...@sleevi.com
> Cc: mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org; Gervase Markham
> <g...@mozilla.org>
> Subject: Re: On the value of EV
> 
> No, I’m not presuming that; that’s why I put the ? after never.  I’ve never 
> heard
> of any, so it’s possible it really is never.  But I’m pretty confident in at 
> least the
> “rare” part because I’m sure if you knew of any you’d be sharing examples.  ;)
> 
> 
> From: Ryan Sleevi <r...@sleevi.com>
> Reply-To: "r...@sleevi.com" <r...@sleevi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 5:03 PM
> To: Tim Shirley <tshir...@trustwave.com>
> Cc: Gervase Markham <g...@mozilla.org>, "mozilla-dev-security-
> pol...@lists.mozilla.org" <mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org>
> Subject: Re: On the value of EV
> 
> "The very fact that EV certs are rarely (never?) used" is, of course,
> unsubstantiated with data. It's a logically flawed argument - you're presuming
> that non-existence is proof of non-existence.
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