These responses demonstrate why the request is troubling. They attempt to
paint it as "other people do it"

The risk of removing an included CA must balance the ecosystem disruption
to those non-erroneous certs, while the risk to ecosystem inclusion needs
to balance both the aggregate harm to the ecosystem (through lowered
standards) and the risk to the ecosystem of rejecting the request (of
which, until inclusion is accepted, is low)

The pattern of issues - particularly for a new CA - is equally problematic.
A CA, especially in light of the public discussions, should not be having
these issues in 2018, and yet, here we are.

We are in agreement on the objective facts - namely, that there is a
prolonged pattern of issues - and the criteria - namely, that CAs should
adhere to the policy in requesting inclusion. A strict adherence to those
objectives would be to fully deny the request. It sounds like where we
disagree, then, is not in the objective facts and criteria, but rather,
where the evaluation of that leaves relative to risk.

The position I am advocating is that, even if these individual matters
might be seen as less risky, especially, as has been mentioned, this CA is
"only" intended for .tn for the most case, the existence of such a pattern
(and the means of acknowledging-but-not-resolving-completely these issues)
is indicative that there will continue to be serious issues, and that the
risk is not simply limited to .tn, but threatens global Internet stability
and security. Given that the number of certificates being issued are, from
your own descriptions, aimed to be measured in the hundreds, further
highlights that the risk is rather substantial.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:14 AM, Anis via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> Hi Ryan
> I am so sorry but is the same error.
> CN NAME NOT INCLUDE IN THE SAN
> Local IP ADRESS
> Policy not upto date ....
> Is clear for me and i understand.
> All this error became from approuved authority. Is the risk no.
> Then The ecosystem is not protected!!!!!
> ANIS
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