I would like to repeat my call for establishing a set of empirical requirements that take into account the context of DarkMatter's current position in the industry as well as their specific request for the inclusion of a specific root CA.
While I don't necessarily fully support the method with which Benjamin chose to address Ryan's contributions to the discussion so far, I think we're all choosing to kid ourselves here if we continue to say that the underlying impetus for this discussion isn't primarily sociopolitical. The sooner an end is put to this, the better. The right thing to do, right now, is for there to be a documented process through which a set of empirical, falsifiable, achievable requirements are set by either Mozilla, the CABForum, or both, for DarkMatter to fulfill so that they can be considered for inclusion. If these requirements are (1) defined fairly and (2) achieved by DarkMatter verifiably, then great. Otherwise, too bad. It is my humble belief that any alternative course of action is a further descent into distraction. _______________________________________________ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy