I just wanted to point out that e-commerce's communication is still 
very-very delayed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1893546#c1, 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1862004#c9

I think e-commerce is getting into the territory where we should really 
consider if they're a healthy member of the Mozilla root store.

*Does anyone have any arguments on why e-commerce shouldn't be fast tracked 
to removal from root stores?* I know in the future we probably need to 
define certain criteria on how to handle non-responsive CAs such as this. 
But I don't think we should wait until such a document is prepared before 
taking action.

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 9:12:19 AM UTC-4 Wayne wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> I was looking at https://globaltrust.eu/certificate-policy/ and the 
> 'GLOBALTRUST 
> 2015 SERVER OV 2' entry which includes a list of test servers. I can see 
> there is a different list of test servers listed higher on the page, and 
> 2020 functions correctly, but 2015 has the same issue (from the 'Testserver 
> SSL-Zertifikate' heading):
>
> GLOBALTRUST 2015 gültiges Zertifikat 
> https://testok-2015-server-qualified-1.e-monitoring.at
> GLOBALTRUST 2015 abgelaufenes Zertifikat 
> https://testold-2015-server-qualified-1.e-monitoring.at
> GLOBALTRUST 2015 widerrufenes Zertifikat 
> https://testrevoked-2015-server-qualified-1.e-monitoring.at 
>
> This seems to have been an abandoned practice by globaltrust and the 
> entries are inconsistent on whether they have any listed.
>
> - Wayne
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 1:59:59 PM UTC+1 Andrew Ayer wrote:
>
>> Hi Wayne, 
>>
>> On Fri, 3 May 2024 04:29:15 -0700 (PDT) 
>> Wayne <rdau...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> > They don't list valid/expired/revoked domains for all of their 
>> > sub-CAs 
>>
>> CAs are only required to provide one set of test websites per root, not 
>> for every sub-CA. 
>>
>> > and even the ones they do are running on the same wildcard 
>> > covering: 
>> > 
>> > DNS:timestamp.globaltrust.eu 
>> > DNS:*.globaltrust.eu 
>> > DNS:*.globaltrust.at 
>> > DNS:*.globaltrust.info 
>> > DNS:*.a-cert.at 
>> > DNS:*.e-monitoring.at 
>> > 
>> > See: https://crt.sh/?id=9532011580 
>>
>> Where are you seeing this disclosed as a test website certificate? The 
>> disclosures that I see in the CCADB for GLOBALTRUST's Mozilla-trusted 
>> root are: 
>>
>> https://testok-2020-server-qualified-ev-1.e-monitoring.at/ 
>> https://testold-2020-server-qualified-ev-1.e-monitoring.at/ 
>> https://testrevoked-2020-server-qualified-ev-1.e-monitoring.at/ 
>>
>> Those all look correct to me. 
>>
>> Regards, 
>> Andrew 
>>
>

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