I'm happy we're stating our opinions here, but there are also two other people who believe that the bin should not contain it. That's nice that you want source code in a binary release, but your opinion is not the only one. I feel like you're telling me that my opinion is sub-par to your opinion because it is.

If this is such a sticking point, I move that we completely kill the notion of source and binary releases and make one tarball that contains both.

On 5/17/13 3:17 PM, John Vines wrote:
I agree with Adam. It seems like it's a debate of consistency vs.
pragmatism. The cost of including these libraries are all of maybe 1kb in
the package. The cost of excluding them is potential frustration from end
users and a lot of repetitive stress against the Apache Mirrors (lets try
and be considerate). I think it's a no brainer, but I have yet to here a
reason that is not 'no source code in a binary release!'


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Adam Fuchs <afu...@apache.org> wrote:

Just to solidify the decision that Chris is already leaning towards, let me
try to clarify my position:
1. The only reason not to add the native library source code in the
-bin.tar.gz distribution is that src != bin. There is no measurable
negative effect of putting the cpp files and Makefile into the -bin.tar.gz.
2. At least one person wants the native library source code in the
-bin.tar.gz to make their life easier.

This is a very simple decision. It really doesn't matter how easy it is to
include prebuilt native code in some other way or build the code and copy
it in using some other method. Those are all tangential arguments.

Adam




On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM, William Slacum <
wilhelm.von.cl...@accumulo.net> wrote:

I think of the native maps as an add on and they should probably be
treated
as such. I think we should consider building a different package and
installing them separately. Personally, for development and testing, I
don't use them.

Since we're building RPMs and debian packages, the steps to install an
add
on is roughly 20 keystrokes.


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Josh Elser <josh.el...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I believe I already voiced my opinion on this, but let me restate it
since
the conversation is happening again.

Bundling the native library built with a "common" library is easiest
and
I
believe makes the most sense. My opinion is that source files should be
included in a source release and that a bin release doesn't include
source
files. Since we're specifically making this distinction by making these
releases, it doesn't make sense to me why we would decide "oh, well in
this
one case, the bin dist will actually have _some_ src files too."

Is it not intuitive that if people need to rebuild something, that they
download a src dist (and bin) to start? :shrug:


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