Hi Hadrian, On 23 Dec 2013, at 03:14, Hadrian Zbarcea <[email protected]> wrote:
> While I agree that the console was never an architectural necessity, the > reality is that it's very much in use today by pretty much every ActiveMQ > user I know. I don’t disagree with that, all management operations with the broker are exposed through JMX, and until the ActiveMQ 5.8 release it was pretty hard to navigate the ActiveMQ JMX tree from any vanilla JMX console (e.g. JConsole) - the name hierarchy was ‘bespoke' and it was hard to know what you were looking for - and the original ActiveMQ web console provided a convent facade on presenting that information to users. That issue was fixed about a year ago[1]. The problem is that the original Web console provides a static view on what’s really going on - there’s a lot of information that’s been added to JMX over the years and the original web console hasn’t been maintained to keep up with it - mainly because its so painful to do so, and changes have sometimes resulted in a new security issues[2]. Apart from an initial sniff test to see if its running - users tend to move to something else pretty quickly to monitor a running ActiveMQ broker - like JConsole, Jolkia, Hyperic, hawtio etc. > > This thread was meant for a different purpose, I don't think it should be > hijacked by a different discussion. If somebody feels strongly about removing > the original console, I think that conversation should take place in a > separate [discuss] thread, a deprecation time should be provided and an > alternative (if any) presented. It wasn’t my intention to hijack the discussion for a different purpose - its just that the removal of the original Console and the use of hawtio are linked [3] - currently both options are available to a user, but the intention was to provide a least something to replace the original console over time - currently that was hawtio - I’m not aware of anything better that has an ASF compatible licence. Rob. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4237 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2714?jql=project%20%3D%20AMQ%20AND%20text%20~%20%22XSS%22 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4594
