I'm also happy to contribute with those projects where I can.

I was trying to port the NMS to .net core some time ago and I'm happy to go
forward with it.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:24 AM Robbie Gemmell <robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I didn't say they should be removed. I said their status should be
> made clear if its established as necessary. I even outlined I dont
> think they should be removed from the site (how I interpreted comment
> around leaving just a readme) if they are still considered maintained.
>
> I did say that being used is separate from being actively maintained
> though.
>
> Robbie
>
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:03, Arthur Naseef <a...@amlinv.com> wrote:
> >
> > So if this is an "outsider looking in," then as one of the insiders,
> let's
> > put this to bed.  CPP and NMS are used and are not ready to be removed.
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 10:22 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> robbie.gemm...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My view is that its a discussion around the status of some components,
> > > which came up as part of working on an encompassing problem; the
> > > website. While working toward improvements there Justin has asked what
> > > I think are reasonable enough questions around the status of these
> > > bits.
> > >
> > > My outsider-looking-in (its an area I don't contribute) view on them
> > > is that they haven't have an active enough community around them
> > > lately. I'm happy if that turns out not to be the case, but I think is
> > > what this thread seeks to try and determine. In part, I think
> > > discussions like this are good precisely so that folks dont find
> > > themselves in the kinds of situation you outline below. Its great that
> > > you have the knowledge and are also willing to help here.
> > >
> > > In that particular reply I was asking for clarity on the mail as I
> > > wasnt sure what its saying, and I think clarity is important here. I
> > > was not looking to attack anyone, if thats what you felt.
> > >
> > > Robbie
> > >
> > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 16:49, Arthur Naseef <a...@amlinv.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What are we doing with this thread?  Trying to get individual
> commitments
> > > > to putting time into some vague possibility of needed effort in the
> > > future?
> > > >
> > > > Just reading this thread is discouraging.  I long to be part of a
> > > community
> > > > that works together to constructively solve problems - real problems.
> > > One
> > > > of the last ActiveMQ efforts on which I offered to assist was a CVE
> in
> > > > which I said I didn't have time to do all the work but would gladly
> help
> > > > others.  Nobody else stepped up to help and I ended up doing most of
> the
> > > > work, with Christopher Shannon stepping up to wrap up the CVE
> management
> > > > and release, IIRC.  So if we are just looking to attack one another
> with
> > > > "you don't help," we can stop - we've reached that place already.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I have more than enough knowledge to help with the ActiveMQ-CPP
> > > > project, so anyone looking at issues there can reach out to me and
> we can
> > > > work *together* on it.  NMS, I can also do, but I definitely have a
> much
> > > > larger gap to getting NMS built and tested, especially since I really
> > > don't
> > > > know C#.  Give me a shout via email or on slack if you want to reach
> me.
> > > >
> > > > Art
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:02 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> robbie.gemm...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > To be clear Jamie, is this you saying you intend to help maintain
> the
> > > > > CPP client going forward?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 14:37, Jamie G. <jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still alive - learning life as a new parent, slipping a
> little on
> > > > > > reading all the threads for projects I contribute too (Apache,
> Linux
> > > > > > Foundation, etc).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In regards to contributing to CPP client, I picked on some issues
> > > > > > there earlier in the year. Discovered that master branch was not
> the
> > > > > > primary maintained branch. After some discussion its clearer how
> > > > > > future maintenance, and bug fixes can occur. That information
> was not
> > > > > > clear to find, it only became clear after rejected PRs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Given its not always clear what is happening with a sub project
> if
> > > its
> > > > > > not very active, clear readmes and docs are very nice to have. I
> > > would
> > > > > > like to see them stay, minimally as APIs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:50 AM jgenender <jgenen...@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Justin, what seems to be the problem?  Not everyone follows
> every
> > > > > thread, so
> > > > > > > they don't always speak up.  They don't have to.  The JIRA and
> > > > > comments in
> > > > > > > past threads speak for themselves.  I am simply pointing that
> out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems like you are trying to kill this.  You have had a
> couple
> > > of
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > say there is value.  If you want to cut the web part of it
> because
> > > its
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > PITA, thats fine by me.  But the APIs as projects should
> stay.  If
> > > you
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > to link back to old doc, so be it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -1 from me to removing those code bases.  I am open to leaving
> > > them as
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > sub-project for code only with a nice readme.md.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Sent from:
> > > > > http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-Dev-f2368404.html
> > > > >
> > >
>

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