[DISCUSS] all the things! \o/
I guess I wasn't clear either what I was voting on - was this a vote on the
process, or the specific change? Probably best it was cancelled for now then :)
-a
On Feb 19 2020, at 12:37 pm, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it's something that we can discuss (joking - let's not do it ;) )
>
> According to
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification,
> -1 is a veto on code modifications. "A code-modification proposal may be
> stopped dead in its tracks by a -1 vote by a qualified voter. This
> constitutes a veto, and it cannot be overruled nor overridden by anyone.
> Vetos stand until and unless withdrawn by their casters."
>
> This was voting on a process of the release, so it's a bit blurry - it's
> neither code modification nor releasing package itself, it's more of a meta
> issue.
>
> But regardless if it was a veto or not - your -1 made me think and I
> withdraw this proposal as it was. I think the proposal in the [PROPOSAL]
> thread now is much better, complete and gentle to our users. Also Fokko
> expressed his concerns that he had not seen the discussion before, so it
> makes sense to get to the drawing board anyway.
>
> Better to do it well than fast as it will be with us for a while.
> J.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:26 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I should clarify, my -1 here is not a veto.
> > -ash
> > On Feb 19 2020, at 9:40 am, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Since we have -1 from Ash. The vote is cancelled for now. I have some
> >
> > ideas
> > > to address Ash's concern and will continue the discussion in the
> > > corresponding [PROPOSAL] thread here:
> > >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6f2de8056b00ad084c96a9428670c14421a89ba2bbbd362d833bb50%40%3Cdev.airflow.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > >
> > > J.
> > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:46 AM Driesprong, Fokko <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where is the code? I don't know what I'm voting for. If we want to do
> > this,
> > > > why aren't we cherry-picking this in the branch? I feel like I'm
> > > > missing something.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Fokko
> > > > Op di 18 feb. 2020 om 23:14 schreef Jarek Potiuk <
> > >
> >
> > [email protected]
> > > > > :
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > How do you propose to address this Ash (and _we_ especially) ? Any
> > idea
> > > > how
> > > > > _we_ can do it?
> > > > >
> > > > > J.
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:54 PM Ash Berlin-Taylor <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > -1 from me.
> > > > > > I would favour individual small releases, not a back-port big blob.
> > > > > > And I would also rather _we_ put the effort in to working out
> > > > > > compatibility issues/breaking changes in providers (and to be
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > honest
> > > > > > avoiding them in most cases) rather than making our users do this
> > > > > > guess/experience breakages from upgrades.
> > > > > > On Feb 18 2020, at 9:49 pm, Kamil Breguła <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CalVer is a fantasstic idea.
> > > > > > > https://calver.org/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:37 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since we are close to run tests for backport packages at GCP I
> > > > would
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > to start vote on the release process for backport packages.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The vote will last till Friday, 21st of Feb, 11pm CET.
> > > > > > > > The proposal is to release one single backport "providers"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > package
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > with Calver scheme:
> > > > > > > > *apache-airflow-providers-backport-1.10-YYYY.MM.DD*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The conditions for release are:
> > > > > > > > 1) Unit tests are passing in master
> > > > > > > > 2) Backport packages are installable on latest released airflow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.10.x
> > > > > > > > (currently 1.10.9) with python 3.6 and 3.7.
> > > > > > > > 3) Compatibility matrix is produced for tested providers (using
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > system
> > > > > > > > tests where applicable)
> > > > > > > > 4) Only PMCs have binding votes on the release as with Apache
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Airflow
> > > > > > > > official releases.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Committers have a binding vote but everyone from the community
> > is
> > > > > > > > encouraged to cast an advisory vote.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Consider this my biding +1 vote.
> > > > > > > > J.
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