Hi Meghya,

There is also “airflow task test” that can run a specific task for
debugging.

On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 21:04, Meygha Machado
<meygha.b...@nielsen.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Jarek,
>
> Thank you for summarizing the discussion points and linking to the two PRs
> that enhance the dag test feature.
>
> We (at Nielsen) are working on a PR to extend the `airflow dag test` to be
> able to reconstruct the context from an existing dag run.
>
> I think allowing the option to execute only a specific task will also be
> helpful. The linked PR to mark tasks as success based on a pattern is handy
> for shortening the iteration time but expresses the same idea as "exclude
> all these other tasks". In cases where someone wants to debug only a
> specific task in a dag with many tasks, OR the task of interest is towards
> the end of the dag that has many branches and the task is a leaf, etc, it
> adds a little bit of extra work to figure out which tasks should be set to
> success. So specifying the task_id of interest vs specifying what all to
> exclude, will make the CLI more intuitive.
>
> Together, these features can be powerful when there is a production dag
> failure where the cause is not obvious from the logs. So the workflow would
> be:
> * production dag run failed
> * developer runs something like `airflow dag test <dag_id> <run_id>
> <task_id> --use-executor <executor of interest>` by providing the run_id of
> the failed dag run. Now they're able to get a debugger entrypoint into the
> task of interest in the executor of interest with the same context as the
> failed dag (who among us hasn't spent many hours trying to replicate a
> production failure scenario ;-) )
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 1:14 AM Amogh Desai <amoghdesai....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I agree with you Jarek.
> >
> > Every developer has their own way of debugging things and sharing those
> > with the community
> > including the best practices. There is always scope for improvement to
> the
> > documentation!
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > Amogh Desai
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 12:17 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Also I would like to drag attention of those who were interested in the
> >> subject on two related PRs:
> >>
> >> * https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/40010 by jannisko (sorry if
> you
> >> see it - I do not know your real name :) ) -> where you can run a dag
> test
> >> while skipping (or actually mark as success) some tasks (for example
> >> sensors)
> >> * https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/40205 by Vincent -> where you
> >> can
> >> run dag test using executor rather than `_run_raw_task`
> >>
> >> I think - the debug feature that Nielsen showcased on the call falls in
> >> the
> >> same pattern "make our airflow dags test` more powerful - and it would
> be
> >> great if we could incorporate similar pattern - where you can recreate
> >> task
> >> context from already executed dag_run - as part of the `airflow dags
> test`
> >> CLI command and `dag.test()` method.
> >>
> >> This is also I think a good opportunity to enhance documentation and
> >> explain all those patterns on how you can debug dag - in
> >>
> >>
> https://airflow.apache.org/docs/apache-airflow/stable/core-concepts/debug.html#testing-dags-with-dag-test
> >> - for now the documentation is rather bare-bone, but it would be great
> if
> >> we explain some of the best practices and use cases how dag debugging
> >> might
> >> be done using the `airflow dags test` command.
> >>
> >> I think maybe other people have their own patterns of testing DAGs that
> >> they could contribute here - both as documentation update and maybe new
> >> features of our existing "airlfow dags test" command.
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> >>
> >> J.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:29 PM Stefan Krawczyk <ste...@dagworks.io>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1 for the recording please.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 1:26 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Just summarizing the call:
> >> > >
> >> > > * we had demo from Nielsen showing their debugging feature
> >> > > * It's based on environments created in the research environment
> where
> >> > > users can run DAGs and debug individual tasks - basically replaying
> >> and
> >> > > debugging the tasks based on existing DAG runs but without saving
> any
> >> > > changes to state of the dag in the DB
> >> > > * pretty useful thing is the way how they can use existing DAG run
> to
> >> > > recreate the context of execution based on existing dag run
> >> > > * Nielsen team used it with Airflow 1.10 and they will look into how
> >> the
> >> > > new `dag.test()` feature from Airflow 2.5 can be plugged into it and
> >> come
> >> > > back to it
> >> > > * nice thing is that they hooked it up with VSCode plugin where they
> >> can
> >> > > easily do all that within VSCode and can debug it out-of-the-box
> >> > > * possibly they could generalise it either as a "what could be done
> by
> >> > > others" description or maybe even having VSCode-from-airflow
> >> > out-of-the-box
> >> > > (the latter was my brainstorming idea).
> >> > >
> >> > > I have a recording - I do not want to publish it on the public
> >> devlist,
> >> > but
> >> > > If anyone is interested - let me know and I will share.
> >> > >
> >> > > J.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 6:49 AM Albert Okiri <okirialb...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Jarek, I'm interested in joining this call.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > Albert.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, 07:43 Poorvi Rohidekar, <
> >> > > > poorvirohidekar....@gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Jarek,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'd be interested in joining this call.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > Poorvi
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 at 21:42, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > And yes. I will check with them about recording :)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 4:41 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> ja...@potiuk.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I think I have to warn Nielsen team that we are going to
> have
> >> a
> >> > big
> >> > > > > crowd
> >> > > > > > > :)
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 4:40 PM Bishundeo, Rajeshwar
> >> > > > > > > <rbish...@amazon.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> This sounds exciting! I would like to join as well.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> -- Rajesh
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> On 2024-06-10, 11:12 PM, "Ephraim Anierobi" <
> >> > > > > ephraimanier...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > >> <mailto:ephraimanier...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>
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> >> > > > > > >> Hi Jarek,
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Awesome!! I’m interested to join too
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Ephraim
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 23:41, Mehta, Shubham
> >> > > <shu...@amazon.com.inva
> >> > > > > > >> <mailto:shu...@amazon.com.inva>lid>
> >> > > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > This is great, thanks for working with them to share this
> >> with
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > >> > community. Interested to join as well.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > Shubham
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > On 2024-06-07, 11:56 PM, "Jarek Potiuk" <
> ja...@potiuk.com
> >> > > > <mailto:
> >> > > > > > >> ja...@potiuk.com> <mailto:
> >> > > > > > >> > ja...@potiuk.com <mailto:ja...@potiuk.com>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the
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> >> > > > > > >> > click links or open attachments unless you can confirm
> the
> >> > > sender
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> >> > > > > > >> know
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> >> > > > > > >> >
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> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > AVERTISSEMENT: Ce courrier électronique provient d’un
> >> > expéditeur
> >> > > > > > >> externe.
> >> > > > > > >> > Ne cliquez sur aucun lien et n’ouvrez aucune pièce jointe
> >> si
> >> > > vous
> >> > > > ne
> >> > > > > > >> pouvez
> >> > > > > > >> > pas confirmer l’identité de l’expéditeur et si vous
> n’êtes
> >> pas
> >> > > > > certain
> >> > > > > > >> que
> >> > > > > > >> > le contenu ne présente aucun risque.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > Hello here,
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > At PyCon US I met a few people from Nielsen who had
> >> developed
> >> > > > > > internally
> >> > > > > > >> > tooling for IDE/Python debugger integrated debugging of
> >> > Airflow
> >> > > > > DAGs.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > They are thrilled with the opportunity of sharing what
> >> they've
> >> > > > done
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > >> > possibly maybe even bringing it to Airflow. As one of the
> >> > > Airflow
> >> > > > 3
> >> > > > > > >> > workstreams I am particularly interested in is to
> >> "*Simplify
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > >> learning
> >> > > > > > >> > curve*" [1] - this sounds pretty interesting in this
> >> context.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > I will have a call with them next week - immediately
> after
> >> the
> >> > > > > > Airflow 3
> >> > > > > > >> > dev call (Thu, 13th of June, 6pm CEST), where they will
> >> demo
> >> > > what
> >> > > > > they
> >> > > > > > >> have
> >> > > > > > >> > - so if you would like to join it - let me know, I will
> >> invite
> >> > > you
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > >> > call.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > [1]
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
> >> > > > > > >> <
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
> >> > > > > > >> >
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> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
> >> > > > > > >> <
> >> > > > > > >>
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> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
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> >> > > > > > >> > J.
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