Also I would like to drag attention of those who were interested in the
subject on two related PRs:

* https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/40010 by jannisko (sorry if you
see it - I do not know your real name :) ) -> where you can run a dag test
while skipping (or actually mark as success) some tasks (for example
sensors)
* https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/40205 by Vincent -> where you can
run dag test using executor rather than `_run_raw_task`

I think - the debug feature that Nielsen showcased on the call falls in the
same pattern "make our airflow dags test` more powerful - and it would be
great if we could incorporate similar pattern - where you can recreate task
context from already executed dag_run - as part of the `airflow dags test`
CLI command and `dag.test()` method.

This is also I think a good opportunity to enhance documentation and
explain all those patterns on how you can debug dag - in
https://airflow.apache.org/docs/apache-airflow/stable/core-concepts/debug.html#testing-dags-with-dag-test
- for now the documentation is rather bare-bone, but it would be great if
we explain some of the best practices and use cases how dag debugging might
be done using the `airflow dags test` command.

I think maybe other people have their own patterns of testing DAGs that
they could contribute here - both as documentation update and maybe new
features of our existing "airlfow dags test" command.

WDYT?

J.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 10:29 PM Stefan Krawczyk <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 for the recording please.
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 1:26 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Just summarizing the call:
> >
> > * we had demo from Nielsen showing their debugging feature
> > * It's based on environments created in the research environment where
> > users can run DAGs and debug individual tasks - basically replaying and
> > debugging the tasks based on existing DAG runs but without saving any
> > changes to state of the dag in the DB
> > * pretty useful thing is the way how they can use existing DAG run to
> > recreate the context of execution based on existing dag run
> > * Nielsen team used it with Airflow 1.10 and they will look into how the
> > new `dag.test()` feature from Airflow 2.5 can be plugged into it and come
> > back to it
> > * nice thing is that they hooked it up with VSCode plugin where they can
> > easily do all that within VSCode and can debug it out-of-the-box
> > * possibly they could generalise it either as a "what could be done by
> > others" description or maybe even having VSCode-from-airflow
> out-of-the-box
> > (the latter was my brainstorming idea).
> >
> > I have a recording - I do not want to publish it on the public devlist,
> but
> > If anyone is interested - let me know and I will share.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 6:49 AM Albert Okiri <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jarek, I'm interested in joining this call.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Albert.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, 07:43 Poorvi Rohidekar, <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Jarek,
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested in joining this call.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Poorvi
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 at 21:42, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And yes. I will check with them about recording :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 4:41 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think I have to warn Nielsen team that we are going to have a
> big
> > > > crowd
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 4:40 PM Bishundeo, Rajeshwar
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> This sounds exciting! I would like to join as well.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -- Rajesh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 2024-06-10, 11:12 PM, "Ephraim Anierobi" <
> > > > [email protected]
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> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Jarek,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Awesome!! I’m interested to join too
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ephraim
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 23:41, Mehta, Shubham
> > <[email protected]
> > > > > >> <mailto:[email protected]>lid>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > This is great, thanks for working with them to share this with
> > the
> > > > > >> > community. Interested to join as well.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Shubham
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On 2024-06-07, 11:56 PM, "Jarek Potiuk" <[email protected]
> > > <mailto:
> > > > > >> [email protected]> <mailto:
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> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Hello here,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > At PyCon US I met a few people from Nielsen who had developed
> > > > > internally
> > > > > >> > tooling for IDE/Python debugger integrated debugging of
> Airflow
> > > > DAGs.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > They are thrilled with the opportunity of sharing what they've
> > > done
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> > possibly maybe even bringing it to Airflow. As one of the
> > Airflow
> > > 3
> > > > > >> > workstreams I am particularly interested in is to "*Simplify
> the
> > > > > >> learning
> > > > > >> > curve*" [1] - this sounds pretty interesting in this context.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I will have a call with them next week - immediately after the
> > > > > Airflow 3
> > > > > >> > dev call (Thu, 13th of June, 6pm CEST), where they will demo
> > what
> > > > they
> > > > > >> have
> > > > > >> > - so if you would like to join it - let me know, I will invite
> > you
> > > > to
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > call.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > [1]
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
> > > > > >> <
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > <
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
> > > > > >> <
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Airflow+3+Dev+call%3A+Meeting+Notes#Airflow3Devcall:MeetingNotes-4June2024
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> > > > > >> > >
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> > > > > >> > J.
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