Hi Song, Just noted that we are also working on dag-level access on top of RBAC(AIRFLOW-2267) which should provide dag-level acl functionality. The WIP pr could be found at https://github.com/apache/incubator-airflow/pull/3197
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:42 PM, 刘松(Cycle++开发组) <liuson...@megvii.com> wrote: > Hi Taylor, > > Yes, I know that this RBAC feature would be released within the 1.10 > release. > > # About multi-user support > > But Why not deploy one instance of Airflow per user ? ( > With this feature, don’t you think that the Airflow is to be more likely > as a platform to serve more different users. > Also multi-user case would exhaust the Airflow resource more easily if we > are talking the scalability capability of Airflow. > > # About multi-project support > > You could see the “project” concept is some kind of logical group of the > DAGs to let the DAGs be organized more structural. > I can’t see it will beat the “scalability” of Airflow somehow, it just let > the user experience be more friendly I see. > > So that is why I want to use the “multi-user support” case to argue why > suggest using multi-instance for “multi-project”, > since that I think the “multi-user” support is kindly of pushing the > Airflow in the way of “be more scalable”, but “multi-project” just be more > intuitive and more user-experience friendly. > > Thanks, > Song > > On 26/04/2018, 4:50 AM, "Taylor Edmiston" <tedmis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Something else that might be relevant for your multi-user use case is > the > new RBAC support that Joy Gao added. > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-airflow/pull/3015 > > *Taylor Edmiston* > Blog <http://blog.tedmiston.com> | Stack Overflow CV > <https://stackoverflow.com/story/taylor> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedmiston/> | AngelList > <https://angel.co/taylor> > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:04 PM, James Meickle < > jmeic...@quantopian.com> > wrote: > > > Another reason you would want separated infrastructure is that there > are a > > lot of ways to exhaust Airflow resources or otherwise cause > contention - > > like having too many sensors or sub-DAGs using up all available > tasks. > > > > Doesn't seem like a great idea to push for having different teams > with > > co-tenancy until there is also per-team control over resource use... > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:27 PM, 刘松(Cycle++开发组) < > liuson...@megvii.com> > > wrote: > > > > > It seems that all the current approach is pointing to multiple > instance > > of > > > airflow, but project concept is very nature since one user might to > > handle > > > different type of tasks. > > > > > > Another thing about the multiple user support, one way is also to > deploy > > > multiple instance, but it seems that airflow is providing multiple > user > > > function builtin. > > > > > > So I can not be convinced that using multiple instance for multiple > > > project purpose. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Song > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 4:25 AM +0800, "Ace Haidrey" < > > acehaid...@gmail.com > > > <mailto:acehaid...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Looks neat Taylor! > > > > > > And regarding the original question, going off of what Maxime and > Bolke > > > said, at Pandora, it made more sense for us to have an instance > per team > > > since each team has its own system user for prod and the instance > can run > > > all processes as that user. Alternatively you could have a super > user > > that > > > can sudo as those other system users, and have many teams on a > single > > > instance but that is a security concern (what if one team sudo's > as the > > > other team and accidentally overwrites data - there is nothing > stopping > > > them from doing it). It depends what your org set up is, but let > me know > > if > > > there are any questions I can help with. > > > > > > Ace > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 24, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Taylor Edmiston wrote: > > > > > > > > We use a similar approach like Bolke mentioned with running > multiple > > > > Airflow instances. > > > > > > > > I haven't read the Pandora article yet, but we have an > Astronomer Open > > > > Edition (fully open source) that bundles similar tools like > Prometheus, > > > > Grafana, Celery, etc with Airflow and a Docker Compose file if > you're > > > > looking to get a setup like that up and running quickly. > > > > > > > > https://github.com/astronomerio/astronomer/blob/ > > master/examples/airflow- > > > enterprise/docker-compose.yml > > > > https://github.com/astronomerio/astronomer > > > > > > > > *Taylor Edmiston* > > > > Blog | Stack Overflow CV > > > > | LinkedIn > > > > | AngelList > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Maxime Beauchemin < > > > > maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Related blog post about multi-tenant Airflow deployment out of > > Pandora: > > > >> https://engineering.pandora.com/apache-airflow-at-pandora- > > 1d7a844d68ee > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Bolke de Bruin > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> My suggestion would be to deploy airflow per project. You > could even > > > use > > > >>> airflow to manage your ci/cd pipeline. > > > >>> > > > >>> B. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > > >>> > > > >>>> On 24 Apr 2018, at 18:33, Maxime Beauchemin < > > > >> maximebeauche...@gmail.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> People have been talking about namespacing DAGs in the past. > I'd > > > >>> recommend > > > >>>> using tags (many to many) instead of categories/projects (one > to > > > many). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> It should be fairly easy to add this feature. One question is > > whether > > > >>> tags > > > >>>> are defined as code or in the UI/db only. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Max > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Song Liu > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Basically the DAGs are created for a project purpose, so if > I have > > > >> many > > > >>>>> different projects, will the Airflow support the Project > concept > > and > > > >>>>> organize them separately ? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Is this a known requirement or any plan for this already ? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> Song > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >