On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must say it is the first time any project I've worked on has been > cloned by microsoft to become a strategic offering of theirs.
Yes, a very interesting experience. > I also think they may have a better list/set model than Ant's, which > doesn't really have anything consistent at all, At the same time they don't really support nested elements in a useful way at all AFAICT. You can have array type attributes, but then MSBuild is going to convert lists into arrays for you from what I understand. I 100% agree with you that Ant needs a better List/Set model. > I do think a bit of credit to the ant and nant teams would have been > polite It's even worse than that. NAnt gets some bad coverage in a Microsoft Press book they've distributed at PDC from what I hear. Alex Kipman (Program Manager Visual Studio Core Team, according to his sig) apologizes for this on nant-dev, but who's going to read it? > -from a colleague who was at the MSBuild session, we didnt merit a > mention. Sigh. MSBuild is closer to NAnt than to Ant (as wittnessed by their use of conditions on everything). If I was naive I could think they aren't aware of Ant. Another interesting bit from nant-dev. When asked whether Microsoft was holding any patents on parts of MSBuild, Alex Kipman said[1] ,---- | >>> This is a tricky question but I'll do my best to answer it openly | and honestly :). | | 1) Microsoft has submitted and has some outstanding patents on | technologies included in the MSBuild engine (core platform stuff). | | 2) MSBuild is written 100% in managed code and will not be obfuscated by | us. With this said, as of today there are no plans to release sources | for MSBuild Engine stuff. Not even as shared source. We are currently | debating releasing sources for our tasks and loggers, but we haven't | discussed license issues yet. `---- I assume that "core platform stuff" applies to the .NET platform at large and don't think that could affect Ant in any way. Stefan Footnotes: [1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3399692&forum_id=863 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
