Hi Bob, I keep my opinion on version 1.0 and *internal* interfaces, because version 1.0 has to be viewed from the user perspective rather than developer perspecive.
Having ArgoUML 1.0 with clean interfaces but incomplete UML2 support and no Undo is ridiculous in my eyes. That's why I do not complain about our 0.x.x version numbers. It reflects the truth that ArgoUML lacks from a complete functional team (completeness regarding team roles) and has major shortcomings. I wish ArgoUML progresses, but it doesn't stop me from being a fan of this tool and using/improving it for my own work. Regards, Thomas -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:17:16 +0100 > Von: Bob Tarling <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule) > If I were to choose an option I would lean towards Michiel rather than > Thomas > > If we are ignoring our own internal interface issues then we should > have branded ourselves as 1.0 long ago so why should we now wait. > > Regards > > Bob > > On 25 May 2011 15:17, Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > it's clear that we have not yet an agreed decision about that. So here > is another (my) opinion on 1.0: > > > > I'd vote for a 1.0 release when we have: > > 1. stable UML2 support with all diagrams and OCL > > 2. Undo/Redo > > > > I don't think UML 1.4 is enough for a 1.0 release in 2011, we're years > too late for that. > > > > I also don't think that internal interfaces are to be considered for the > 1.0 release, because a "1.0" clearly should address users, not developers. > Also eclipse integration or integration of/into other frameworks (e.g. GEF > substitution) are not criteria in my eyes. > > > > For marketing reasons, one could also consider visual changes that will > come with 1.0, but this is not what I'd be interested in. Maybe a new > logo/splashscreen. I don't care too much here. > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > Thomas > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >> Datum: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:38:44 +0200 > >> Von: Michiel van der Wulp <[email protected]> > >> An: [email protected] > >> Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule) > > > >> On 25-05-11 13:31, Bob Tarling wrote: > >> > 3. ASAP > >> > > >> > As an application ArgoUML is stable and improving. So moving to > >> > release 1.0 promotes that stability to the users. The users don't > >> > really care that our internal interfaces are not particularly well > >> > defined. > >> > >> Hmmm, I would like to have ArgoUML 1.0 now as the stable release to > use > >> for UML 1 and then after a while ArgoUML 2.0 as the first stable > release > >> supporting UML2... > >> Yes, V1.0 ASAP. > >> Michiel > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2747842 > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > >> [[email protected]]. > >> To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > >> email: [[email protected]] > > > > -- > > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! > > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2747874 > > > > To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > [[email protected]]. > > To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > email: [[email protected]] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2747934 > > To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > [[email protected]]. > To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > email: [[email protected]] -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ------------------------------------------------------ http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2748843 To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: [[email protected]]. To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, email: [[email protected]]
