Bob, I just want to add that I appreciate your fantastic recent work, and that of course I keep on helping any user/developer in his/her work with ArgoUML. Just to make sure that I don't want to be inadequately selfish.
Thomas -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:29:48 +0200 > Von: Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule) > Hi Bob, > > I keep my opinion on version 1.0 and *internal* interfaces, because > version 1.0 has to be viewed from the user perspective rather than developer > perspecive. > > Having ArgoUML 1.0 with clean interfaces but incomplete UML2 support and > no Undo is ridiculous in my eyes. That's why I do not complain about our > 0.x.x version numbers. It reflects the truth that ArgoUML lacks from a > complete functional team (completeness regarding team roles) and has major > shortcomings. I wish ArgoUML progresses, but it doesn't stop me from being a > fan > of this tool and using/improving it for my own work. > > Regards, > Thomas > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:17:16 +0100 > > Von: Bob Tarling <[email protected]> > > An: [email protected] > > Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule) > > > If I were to choose an option I would lean towards Michiel rather than > > Thomas > > > > If we are ignoring our own internal interface issues then we should > > have branded ourselves as 1.0 long ago so why should we now wait. > > > > Regards > > > > Bob > > > > On 25 May 2011 15:17, Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > it's clear that we have not yet an agreed decision about that. So here > > is another (my) opinion on 1.0: > > > > > > I'd vote for a 1.0 release when we have: > > > 1. stable UML2 support with all diagrams and OCL > > > 2. Undo/Redo > > > > > > I don't think UML 1.4 is enough for a 1.0 release in 2011, we're years > > too late for that. > > > > > > I also don't think that internal interfaces are to be considered for > the > > 1.0 release, because a "1.0" clearly should address users, not > developers. > > Also eclipse integration or integration of/into other frameworks (e.g. > GEF > > substitution) are not criteria in my eyes. > > > > > > For marketing reasons, one could also consider visual changes that > will > > come with 1.0, but this is not what I'd be interested in. Maybe a new > > logo/splashscreen. I don't care too much here. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > >> Datum: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:38:44 +0200 > > >> Von: Michiel van der Wulp <[email protected]> > > >> An: [email protected] > > >> Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule) > > > > > >> On 25-05-11 13:31, Bob Tarling wrote: > > >> > 3. ASAP > > >> > > > >> > As an application ArgoUML is stable and improving. So moving to > > >> > release 1.0 promotes that stability to the users. The users don't > > >> > really care that our internal interfaces are not particularly well > > >> > defined. > > >> > > >> Hmmm, I would like to have ArgoUML 1.0 now as the stable release to > > use > > >> for UML 1 and then after a while ArgoUML 2.0 as the first stable > > release > > >> supporting UML2... > > >> Yes, V1.0 ASAP. > > >> Michiel > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > > > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2747842 > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > > >> [[email protected]]. > > >> To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > > >> email: [[email protected]] > > > > > > -- > > > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! > > > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2747874 > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > > [[email protected]]. > > > To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > > email: [[email protected]] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2747934 > > > > To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > > [[email protected]]. > > To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > > email: [[email protected]] > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=2748843 > > To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: > [[email protected]]. > To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, > email: [[email protected]] -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren! 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