I agree with Michiel and Bob in terms of release 1.0 with UML 1.4 and
version 2.0 with UML 2.0 capabilities.  However, there are a number of fit
and polish and usability issues that it would be good to deal with before a
1.0 release.

   - We definitely need more modern icons.  The current Swing L&F icons make
   the software look pretty dated, and I don't think that's what we want to
   communicate in a 1.0 release.

   - There's also an issue around the representation of generics in
   collections like Maps, and in more complex "collections of collections".
   http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6211

   - The code generation templates can generate some strange artifacts in
   the code.
      - [C# code templates]
      http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5916
      - [Java code templates]
      http://argouml.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6239


   - Users don't currently have a way of creating code using a customized
   template, this means that they can generate code that doesn't meet their own
   coding standards.  This results in more work for the user, and kinda defeats
   the purpose of code generation.

   - It would be good to have some profiles with stereotypes to support web
   application development.

   - Support diagram-level comments (assuming the UML standards support
   this).

Most of these are out of my own personal wishlist, and I don't think they
are necessarily tasks that are particularly onerous to do and could probably
be accomplished within a weekend. It might be worth everyone going through
their own wishlist and identifying which tasks are relatively short, and
provide the most user benefit.

Mark





On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Bob Tarling <[email protected]> wrote:

> If I were to choose an option I would lean towards Michiel rather than
> Thomas
>
> If we are ignoring our own internal interface issues then we should
> have branded ourselves as 1.0 long ago so why should we now wait.
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
> On 25 May 2011 15:17, Thomas Neustupny <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > it's clear that we have not yet an agreed decision about that. So here is
> another (my) opinion on 1.0:
> >
> > I'd vote for a 1.0 release when we have:
> > 1. stable UML2 support with all diagrams and OCL
> > 2. Undo/Redo
> >
> > I don't think UML 1.4 is enough for a 1.0 release in 2011, we're years
> too late for that.
> >
> > I also don't think that internal interfaces are to be considered for the
> 1.0 release, because a "1.0" clearly should address users, not developers.
> Also eclipse integration or integration of/into other frameworks (e.g. GEF
> substitution) are not criteria in my eyes.
> >
> > For marketing reasons, one could also consider visual changes that will
> come with 1.0, but this is not what I'd be interested in. Maybe a new
> logo/splashscreen. I don't care too much here.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:38:44 +0200
> >> Von: Michiel van der Wulp <[email protected]>
> >> An: [email protected]
> >> Betreff: Re: [argouml-dev] Release 1.0 (was - Release schedule)
> >
> >> On 25-05-11 13:31, Bob Tarling wrote:
> >> > 3. ASAP
> >> >
> >> > As an application ArgoUML is stable and improving. So moving to
> >> > release 1.0 promotes that stability to the users. The users don't
> >> > really care that our internal interfaces are not particularly well
> >> > defined.
> >>
> >> Hmmm,  I would like to have ArgoUML 1.0 now as the stable release to use
> >> for UML 1 and then after a while ArgoUML 2.0 as the first stable release
> >> supporting UML2...
> >> Yes, V1.0 ASAP.
> >> Michiel
> >>
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