hi Kou — I just activated a 5 concurrent build Travis CI subscription
on @ursacomputing on GitHub (since we are moving some repos there from
ursa-labs, and that is also a paid GitHub organization). We can create
a team for Arrow collaborators to give push access to repos such as
crossbow

I understand that ursa-labs/crossbow was recently disabled by GitHub
due to the large number of releas artifacts, so a new repo may need to
be created there. I will leave it to Krisztian or others to sort out.

Thanks,
Wes

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 5:44 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Kou — yes, we can do that. I’m not able to do it right this minute but I 
> can look in a few hours or Neal may beat me to it.
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 5:36 PM Sutou Kouhei <k...@clear-code.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could Ursa Labs buy the Travis CI's "5 Concurrent plan"
>> ($249/month) only for this month? It's just for the 3.0.0
>> release. We can stop the plan after we release 3.0.0.
>>
>> See also: 
>> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/billing-overview/#concurrency-based-plans
>>
>> Background:
>>
>> We have only two Crossbow task types that depend on Travis
>> CI: building .deb/.rpm for ARM64 and testing Homebrew on macOS
>>
>> We'll be able to migrate testing Homebrew on macOS tasks to
>> other CI like GitHub Actions easily. But building .deb/.rpm
>> for ARM64 tasks are difficult.
>>
>> Here are failed candidates:
>>
>>   1. Using GitHub Actions with x86_64 host + QEMU + ccache
>>
>>      We know that building .deb/.rpm for ARM64 with x86_64
>>      host + QEMU takes 6h+.
>>
>>      Hypothesis: If we use ccache and share cache with
>>      builds, we may be able to reduce build time.
>>
>>      Fact: We can't share cache between Crossbow
>>      tasks. Because Crossbow creates a new branch for each
>>      task and doesn't use the default branch. The GitHub
>>      Actions cache feature doesn't share cache between
>>      branches:
>>      
>> https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/actions/guides/caching-dependencies-to-speed-up-workflows#matching-a-cache-key
>>
>>   2. Using Drone Cloud like our conda-*-aarch64 tasks
>>
>>      Building .deb/.rpm tasks prepare build in base host and
>>      run a Docker container to build .deb/.rpm. We need to
>>      run a Docker container in CI. Travis CI and GitHub
>>      Actions can do it.
>>
>>      It seems that Drone Cloud uses Docker pipeline:
>>      https://docs.drone.io/yaml/docker/
>>      We need Docker-in-Docker support for building .deb/.rpm
>>      tasks. But Drone Cloud doesn't support Docker-in-Docker:
>>      https://discourse.drone.io/t/run-docker-container-in-docker/5704/2
>>
>>
>> We may be able to use Bulidkite based CI for 4.0.0.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> kou
>>
>> In <630fee3f-0f45-4d0e-bf08-4db9539aa...@www.fastmail.com>
>>   "Re: ursa-labs/crossbow on travis-ci.com is disabled" on Thu, 26 Nov 2020 
>> 09:58:59 +0100,
>>   "Uwe L. Korn" <uw...@xhochy.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Also note that drone.io supports linux-arm64 which we use in conda-forge 
>> > for this architecture and is already setup in crossbow (although we had 
>> > issues with branches not being seen).
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020, at 1:31 AM, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:54 PM Sutou Kouhei <k...@clear-code.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > In <CAHM19a6BCyWVmD9=NvvzW8HU4tWgm=njohy+ivsjotqofno...@mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >   "Re: ursa-labs/crossbow on travis-ci.com is disabled" on Tue, 24 Nov 
>> >> > 2020 13:36:54 +0100,
>> >> >   Krisztián Szűcs <szucs.kriszt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Confirmed, we already have a negative credit balance due to travis'
>> >> > > new billing strategy.
>> >> > > The macos wheels quickly consume the credit based free tier, so travis
>> >> > > disables even the linux builds.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I think we should migrate away from travis to gha or azure, drawbacks:
>> >> > > - the wheel scripts are tailored for travis
>> >> > > - only amd64 arch
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for confirming it.
>> >> >
>> >> > It seems that we have 10,000 credits per month. Our
>> >> > travis-ci.com jobs will be enabled again after 4 days. If we
>> >> > reduce our travis-ci.com usage, we may be able to keep using
>> >> > travis.ci.com.
>> >>
>> >> I found that if you contact their support, they may be willing to
>> >> donate much more free credits for selected open source projects. They
>> >> already mention Apache (the httpd) as an example in their blog of
>> >> important OSS: https://blog.travis-ci.com/oss-announcement
>> >>

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