I'm a +1 for this. I can help on the ci side so that adding one more
package for release is easier.

Jun HE <ju...@apache.org> 於 2019年12月6日 週五 15:41 寫道:

> Hi, Kengo,
>
> I just noticed you updated the BOM of Bigtop v1.5 on BIGTOP-3123.
>
> One thing I'd like to know your and other folks' thought on Elasticsearch
> as Bigtop component.
> There is a ticket (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-3219) for
> this. And I've finished most of the sub-works
> (build/packaging/deployement). Patch could be found at:
> https://github.com/apache/bigtop/pull/566
> For the smoke test part I think it could be done in this weekend.
>
> So if that Jira (BIGTOP-3219) can be done in next week, do you think it is
> OK to include Elasticsearch-5.6.14 in v1.5?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jun
>
> Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org> 于2019年11月22日周五 上午12:09写道:
>
> > Thanks for the comments, everyone!
> > If there's still no objection in a few days, I'm going to update
> > BIGTOP-3123's description.
> >
> > > 'contrib' module will be easier for us to maintain traditional distros
> > and cnb.
> >
> > Agreed. I think that merging the cnb branch later will be a hard work
> too.
> >
> > > What do you think about the components?
> > > Is there a list of components you'd like to upgrade?
> >
> > I'd like to upgrade the following components:
> >
> > - Zookeeper: 3.4.13
> > - Hadoop: 3.2.1 (or 2.10.0 if packaging Hadoop 3 is too hard, as Olaf
> > mentioned before)
> > - HBase: 2.2.2
> > - Hive: 3.1.2
> > - Tez: 0.9.2
> > - Spark: 2.4.4 (or 3.0.0, if GA is released before long)
> > - Phoenix: 5.0.0
> > - Kafka: 2.3.1
> > - Ignite: 2.7.6
> > - Zeppelin: 0.8.2
> >
> > My Teammates and I are trying to package them, and all of them
> > are successfully built anyway. But we have not tested them yet,
> > and I'm sure many problems will be found from now, just as Olaf
> > already came across on Hadoop 3... :)
> >
> > > the community was lean to the direction of having important component
> > better supported
> > > instead of spending resources for 20~30 components.
> >
> > Totally agreed. If we succeed to package Hadoop 3,
> > I'd like to drop inactive components which can't be built with it,
> > at least for now.
> >
> > > Just one concern about the puppet recipes compatibility across multiple
> > puppet versions
> >
> > Exactly. I think it's difficult to support Puppet 3, 4 and 5 with a
> > single manifest or config file,
> > so I'm thinking to create a new "puppet5" directory beside the
> > existing "puppet" directory
> > and put the manifests and config files for Puppet 5 into it (and when
> > we drop the distros
> > using Puppet 3 and 4 completely in the future, we can drop the
> > existing "puppet" directory
> > and promote "puppet5" to "puppet").
> > If it doesn't work as expected, I'll ask you the possibility to drop
> > old versions in the next release again.
> >
> > > one source of problems was using puppet-forge for instance for
> > puppet-stdlib and puppet-apt,
> >
> > Yeah, puppet modules seem to be installed into /usr/share/puppet/modules
> > via apt on Debian 9 and Ubuntu 16.04, while /etc/puppet/modules via
> > `puppet module install` on CentOS 7, as you said.
> > Maybe we have to consolidate them somehow, or specify both of them
> > for `--modulepath` (I'm not sure if it works though), or choose either of
> > them
> > in accordance with the distro.
> >
> > Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org>
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:17 PM Olaf Flebbe <o...@oflebbe.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi
> > >
> > > one source of problems was using puppet-forge for instance for
> > puppet-stdlib and puppet-apt, since they require rather new versions.
> look
> > out for 'puppet module install ....'.  While all distros using apt do
> have
> > matching prepackaged versions in their repository.
> > >
> > > other was different search paths of all these versions. we never fixed
> > that consistently.
> > >
> > > olaf
> > >
> > > Von meinem iPad gesendet
> > >
> > > > Am 21.11.2019 um 03:43 schrieb Jun HE <ju...@apache.org>:
> > > >
> > > > I'm fine with the new distros list. Just one concern about the
> puppet
> > > > recipes compatibility across multiple puppet versions (3.8.5 for
> > > > Ubuntu-16.04, 4.8.2 for Debian-9, and 5.x for other new distros). I
> > didn't
> > > > do any investigation yet. If such issues arise, I'll vote for drop
> > distros
> > > > with older puppet.
> > > >
> > > > Evans Ye <evan...@apache.org> 于2019年11月21日周四 上午1:51写道:
> > > >
> > > >> Fine by me for the OS side.
> > > >> What do you think about the components? Is there a list of
> components
> > you'd
> > > >> like to upgrade?
> > > >> We can target a subset of current supported matrix as we previously
> > > >> discussed about this and the community was lean to the direction of
> > having
> > > >> important component better supported instead of spending resources
> for
> > > >> 20~30 components.
> > > >>
> > > >> Youngwoo Kim (김영우) <yw...@apache.org> 於 2019年11月20日 週三 上午9:41寫道:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Kengo,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Looks good to me. I think puppet on CentOS 8 would be fine.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Cloud Native Bigtop, I believe we should consider that
> components
> > as a
> > > >>> 'contrib' at this point.
> > > >>> I'm considering about Jay's idea, making 'CNB' on master as a
> contrib
> > > >>> module. A development branch is good but on our "two-tracks"
> > development,
> > > >>> 'contrib' module will be easier for us to maintain traditional
> > distros
> > > >> and
> > > >>> cnb.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Youngwoo
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:28 AM Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi folks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'd like to discuss the target distros for the next 1.5.0 release
> > [1],
> > > >>>> because over 1.5 years have passed since Ubuntu 18.04 was released
> > > >>>> and the next LTS will be released within half a year. In addition,
> > > >>>> Fedora 26 and openSUSE 42.3 have already been EOL'd.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> (I understand the "Cloud Native Bigtop" project is going on
> > > >>>> and am really looking forward to it, but my customers still
> requires
> > > >>>> the traditional software stack :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Based on the past discussion [2], here's my proposal:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> - Add Debian 10, Fedora 31 and Ubuntu 18.04 as the target distros
> > > >>>>  and use the puppet package provided by each distro, so that
> > > >>>>  we can support all CPU architectures (x86_64, aarch64, and
> > ppc64le).
> > > >>>>  Their puppet versions are 5.4.0 (ubuntu) and 5.5.10 (debian and
> > > >>> fedora).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  Keep Debian 9 and Ubuntu 16.04 since they are still in the
> support
> > > >>>> period.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  Drop Fedora 26 since it has reached to the EOL on 2018-05-29.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> - Add CentOS 8. Unfortunately, that version doesn't seem to
> > > >>>>  provide the distro's puppet package, even including EPEL.
> > > >>>>  Even though, I'd like to support it since that distro
> > > >>>>  (and RHEL8) are widely used especially in enterprise systems.
> > > >>>>  So, as the next best option, how about using Puppet 5.5 provided
> by
> > > >>>>  Puppetlabs and only supporting the x86_64 architecture on this
> > > >> version?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  Keep CentOS 7 since it's still in the support period.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> - Drop openSUSE 42.3 since it has reached to the EOL on 2019-07-01
> > > >>>>  and don't add a new version of that distro, as discussed in [2].
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> To summarize the above, the supported distros and their versions
> > > >>>> in the 1.5.0 release are as follows:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> - CentOS 7, 8 (8 is only supported on x86_64)
> > > >>>> - Debian 9, 10
> > > >>>> - Fedora 31
> > > >>>> - Ubuntu 16.04, 18.04
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Does this sound reasonable? I'd appreciate any comments or
> > suggestions.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> (Honestly, I'd actually like to drop CentOS 7, Debian 9, and
> Ubuntu
> > > >>> 16.04,
> > > >>>> so that we can consolidate the Puppet version to 5.x.
> > > >>>> But it may be too aggressive for users.)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-3123
> > > >>>> [2]:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/26e14cf36e9cfd61e0de581ed83bf305565c2e65234f1ce3bfb97628@%3Cdev.bigtop.apache.org%3E
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Kengo Seki <sek...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> >
>

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