Hi,

On 2007-11-26, at 11:06 , Drew Jensen wrote:

Peter Vandenabeele wrote:
On Nov 26, 2007 3:33 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

database and list only those who are working with the OOo project, not
just anyone.  That adds to the burden of criteria checking, but as
Peter V. suggests, it's manageable by atomization.


<just my personal view>
I vaguely recall we had this disussion a year ago ... My preference (but that's just me as a marketeer), is to use the "usefulness for the user" as the driving criterium. Said more harshly: the list is _not_ a marketing reward in kind for the developers; the list is a support instrument for the users of relevant suppliers of OO.o related service. Even if they did not contribute a single byte
of code or translation, but they deliver good service (gratis of for
money), they
could be liste. Maybe the criterium "core developer" could be an attribute,
but that is already harder to define.
</just my personal view>


My opinion on this is somewhat different I believe -

When a list such as the consultants list, or the CD distributor list is built there are two sets of users:

1) From the perspective of OpenOffice.org ( the overall project ) the user is the person reading the list.

2) From the perspective of the bizdev group the 'user' is the company being listed.

The lists then are a form of collective, or co-op, advertising for these businesses. Should there be a free way to get on the list - yes I believe so.

Should we be willing to look at ways to augment this free service with additional services that would require some buy in? I believe the answer should be Yes.

Agreed. That's also the conclusion I came to (at least) a long while ago. The added service (or as they say in the industry, "value") would be or could be that we list those who have been certified by OpenOffice.org and are contributing to the project, either in kind or cash (kind: labour, code; cash: that which pays for the former).


Not as a money making venture for OpenOffice.org but as a way of deferring costs that would be incurred - a co-op model in other words. One idea for example - a collective purchase of search engine key words.

Exactly. It would be a strictly nonprofit arrangement. Cost to listees would defray cost of listing and vetting them. They need not opt in; the free list would be available and could be entirely on a wiki, which comes close to eliminating the labour of upkeep.


At it's core I suppose is how one perceives the business of the bizdev project. For me it seems that the emphasis should be on how to help nurture ( support ) businesses that implement OpenOffice.org installations, offer training for OpenOffice.org,or offer complimentary technologies or services.

That's my goal too, and as such was when we all thought of this. The ecosystem writ large or small would benefit, I believe.



Drew

Best
Louis

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