> On Jun 25, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: > > Dinesh - I expect to see a [DISCUSS] thread from you about our CoC shortly. > :) >
I am satisfied with Benedict's clarification. ASF CoC and processes outlined in there are fine. Dinesh > ~Josh > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:17 AM Aaron Morton <aa...@thelastpickle.com> > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> ----------------- >> Aaron Morton >> New Zealand >> @aaronmorton >> >> CEO >> Apache Cassandra Consulting >> http://www.thelastpickle.com >> >> >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 19:46, Benedict Elliott Smith <bened...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> The purpose of this document is to define only how the project makes >>> decisions, and it lists "tenets" of conduct only as a preamble for >>> interpreting the rules on decision-making. The authors' intent was to >> lean >>> on this to minimise the rigidity and prescriptiveness in the formulation >> of >>> the rules (so that we could e.g. use "reasonable" repeatedly, instead of >>> specifying precise expectations), in part because this is our first >> attempt >>> to codify such rules, and in part because rigidity can cause unnecessary >>> friction to a project that mostly runs smoothly. >>> >>> The document provides an avenue for resolving disputes in decision-making >>> when these assumptions on behaviour breakdown. However its scope >> definitely >>> isn't, at least in my opinion, addressing misbehaviour by individuals >> (i.e. >>> one of the serious breaches listed in part 5 of the Apache CoC), which it >>> seems to me you are addressing here? >>> >>> Since we reference the ASF CoC, and the ASF provides its own guide for >>> handling CoC complaints (including within projects), that applies to that >>> very CoC (and which you referenced), it's unclear to me what you're >> looking >>> for. Are you looking for a more project-specific CoC with different >>> guidelines for reporting? This is something you would be welcome to >>> undertake, and seek consensus for. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 25/06/2020, 02:38, "Dinesh Joshi" <djo...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:43 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>>> 1. How/Who/Where are we planning to deal with Code of Conduct >>> violations? I assume this should be private@ but the document does not >>> call it out as such. We should call it out explicitly as part of the PMC >>> responsibilities. We should also clarify how and where are CoC violations >>> against PMC members reported and handled? Should they go to ASF? >>>> >>>> I think if we assume good intent, this will be a non-issue. People >>>> may make mistakes, but I try to have faith they will realize them >> and >>>> act accordingly when told so without any need to escalate. >>> >>> We need to spell out in the document how and where the CoC violations >>> are reported irrespective of the role of the person in the community. >> This >>> is a critical point to address. ASF spells this out very clearly[1]. We >>> should have a similar statement in the Project Governance document, >>> otherwise it feels incomplete to me. >>> >>> Dinesh >>> >>> [1] >>> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html#reporting-guidelines >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org
