On 15/03/2009, Gary Gregory <ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:32 AM
>  > To: Commons Developers List
>  > Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  >
>  > On 15/03/2009, Gary Gregory <ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > >  > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flame...@gmail.com]
>  > >  > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05 PM
>  > >  > To: Commons Developers List
>  > >  > Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Gary Gregory
>  > >  > <ggreg...@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
>  > >  > >> -----Original Message-----
>  > >  > >> From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Schaible
>  > >  > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:29 PM
>  > >  > >> To: dev@commons.apache.org
>  > >  > >> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  > >  > >>
>  > >  > >> Gary Gregory wrote:
>  > >  > >>
>  > >  > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>  > >  > >> >> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
>  > >  > >> >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM
>  > >  > >> >> To: Commons Developers List
>  > >  > >> >> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  > >  > >> >> >
>  > >  > >> >> >  And the various other backwards incompatible changes that
>  > people
>  > >  > >> have
>  > >  > >> >> >  been requesting.
>  > >  > >> >>
>  > >  > >> >> Removal of AllxxxTest classes that just group other tests.
>  > >  > >> >> These just tend to get out of date, potentially complicate the
>  > POM,
>  > >  > >> >> and IMO don't offer much added value.
>  > >  > >> >
>  > >  > >> > -1
>  > >  > >> >
>  > >  > >> > I use package-level test suites all the time from Eclipse.
>  > Running
>  > >  > all
>  > >  > >> > tests in a given package is a very reasonable thing to do IMO.
>  > >  > Otherwise
>  > >  > >> I
>  > >  > >> > am forced to the command line where I often cannot ask Ant or
>  > Maven
>  > >  > to
>  > >  > >> > even run tests in a given package. I am stuck with whatever the
>  > >  > build's
>  > >  > >> > test target does. Not only that but I'd have to sit through a
>  > build
>  > >  > >> every
>  > >  > >> > time...
>  > >  > >>
>  > >  > >> Especially with Eclipse there's no need. Open the context menu of
>  > the
>  > >  > >> package and select run as unit test (or the project to run all
>  > tests at
>  > >  > >> once). For me those AllXxxxTest suites are simply annoying.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > I had missed that menu item in Eclipse! Thanks Jörg.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Is that -1 rescinded for deleting the Suites, Gary?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Rescinded, retracted and recanted.
>  > >
>  >
>  > I've just discovered one minor issue - EntriesPerformanceTest. This is
>  > in the main lang directory, but not in the LangTestSuite -
>  > deliberately, I suspect, as it take over 100 seconds on my system.
>  >
>  > Perhaps it could be moved into a different package (would have to fix
>  > some access rights), or maybe into a different source tree (same
>  > package - one can run tests from the navigator as well in Eclipse)?
>
>
> new CanOfWorms(".*EntriesPerformanceTest").open()
>
>  Well, the performance tests surely are interesting. It would be great to run 
> such tests from build to build and check for performance degradation. The 
> issue becomes where is the performance data stored? As a data file in CVS? 
> OK. Does the build then commits it on every build? Nah... The commit process 
> should probably be manual. So we'd need a task/goal for that...
>

Or just store an upper bound for the elapsed time in the POM?

>  Gary
>
>
>  > >  Gary
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Hen
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