Matt, > I don't know about folks you (or I) know face-to-face, but I know that > several ASF committers and members have popped up around the ANTLR lists over > the years, including, off the top of my head, myself, Torsten, O.Ziegermann, > H.L. Ship, and probably others. I personally am quite comfortable with ANTLR > 2.x but need to really take the time to play with ANTLR 3. The argument > _for_ using parser generators is that those who use them feel the grammar is > easier to digest (it's smaller) than the equivalent Java code. It's > something else again to debug ANTLR parsers/treeparsers, but it's far from > impossible. Once you get used to knowing what to look for it's actually > fairly easy. I don't say any of this to disparage Yonik's work on Noggit > (I've not looked at it); I am just airing my understanding of the motivations > for using grammars and parser generators as opposed to hand-writing parsers.
what you (and Torsten, he PMed me) are saying will surely make digg me more into antlr. At the moment I always felt that such a simple format like json doesn't need such a tool like antlr, but maybe I am wrong and should rethink. However, Yoniks parser is very fast - antlr parsers should have same performance and should be memory efficient too. This can be checked, of course, and I will do that (when having some spare time left :-)). Thanks! Christian > > -Matt > >> > I always scratch my head when I hear "there are >> dependencies!" when any application I create or use always >> has dependencies. I wonder how much redundancies and bug >> fixes would be removed if, for example, all Apache Java code >> (or even just the Commons code) went the other way and did >> depend on each other. You might argue we would end up in >> 'jar hell' but that might force us to better draw boundaries >> between components and fix bugs :) >> >> >> In maven age I don't feel bad with dependencies, but one >> json lib did >> depend on asm version 1 once, and hibernate upgraded to asm >> version 2, >> and that gave me nightmare. I ended up with opening my json >> package >> and copied all version 1 files into it with own package >> name. I >> recompiled, brought this to my repos and so on. This was >> hell (cause >> my customer didn't want to pay the time). >> >> For me json is so basic, that we can do everything without >> any >> dependencie. And a basic lib should not have any, I think. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Christian >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org >> >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
