On 16 October 2013 12:25, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If nobody is willing to put a component to "dormant" state, then the
> label doesn't make any sense. I would vote to remove the dormant state in
> general.
> If we don't have any need of a specific component we can put it to
> attic.apache.org too.
> No need to duplicate things.

AFAIK, the Attic is for entire TLPs only, not individual components.

> If we don't have a "dormant", I would like to see the content of
> CHALLENGE.txt
> somewhere on the website: people who have dedicated themselves to work
> active on the
> component. If no-one signed up, it is unlikely to get issues fixed quickly.
>
> In addition I like the "last release" column.
>
> Here is a widget:
> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?view=widgets&path=%2Fcommons%2Fproper
>
> It does also work on components level:
> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?view=widgets&path=%2Fcommons%2Fproper%2Flogging
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On 15 Oct 2013, at 17:50, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ralph Goers
>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally, I like the idea of having a last release date AND a list of
>>> people who are active in the project. The only problem is that people who go
>>> inactive rarely remove themselves from the list.
>>
>>
>> The only to solve that is with automation, like a list of the people
>> who committed over the last month for example. There must be an SVN
>> widget we can add to the site to see some useful stats.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 7:48 AM, Jörg Schaible <joerg.schai...@scalaris.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>>
>>>> Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/13 10:59 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 15 oct. 2013 à 07:33, Dave Brosius <dbros...@apache.org> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I couldn't disagree more. Dormant/attic means the project has
>>>>>>>> leprosy.
>>>>>>>> I don't know the answer to this, but wondering, has there ever been
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> commit to an attic'ed project? I personally would never think of
>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As probably the only person that "supports"' Jelly, a dormant to be
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> sure, I find the word leprosy outrageous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am happy to stay on list, I even read posts regularly, but I cannot
>>>>>>> find time or motivation to fix bugs or do new releases. I respond to
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> Jelly question I find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jelly has gone 1.0 and is in use here and there.
>>>>>>> I would expect users to be interested to make it advance to come to
>>>>>>> jira
>>>>>>> and suggest fixes; I am happy to negotiate them and apply them, and
>>>>>>> maybe, if things get excited, there might be a release one day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, moving it to a place where you would never commit would sign
>>>>>>> its death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposal is not to move it anywhere, just designate it as
>>>>>> dormant so people know no one is currently working on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We could avoid labeling a project with any words by simply listing the
>>>>> last release date. Each project in turn could have a section in its
>>>>> overview with a history of releases. This would help users make up
>>>>> their mind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based on a release date only, vfs is dormant. Therefore I like Hen's
>>>> approach, since every committer (or even interested user) has now the
>>>> possibility to make his interest/commitment explicit.
>>>>
>>>> Actually we could repeat the this challenge on a yearly base (again with
>>>> an
>>>> empty file). A dormant label can get away in an instance if enough
>>>> people
>>>> show interest. It would be even better without a dormant section in svn
>>>> (with Git it is gone anyway). Currently it takes more effort to awake a
>>>> component.
>>>>
>>>> Just because a component is "dormant" does not mean that its maturity
>>>> has
>>>> gone.
>>>>
>>>> - Jörg
>>>>
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