> On Jul 16, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Matt Juntunen <matt.juntu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
>> I think we might be coming towards time to make this move or at least 
>> accommodate for gradle builds in commons.
> 
> Are you picturing that continued use of Maven will hinder development? Is it 
> restricting us in some way?
> 

Not at all, just trying to gauge community opinion here. 

-Rob

> Regards,
> Matt
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:48 PM
> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [all] Thoughts on build system maven -> gradle??
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Alex Remily <alex.rem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For those of us not as familiar with Gradle, what are some of the
>> benefits?  Drawbacks?
> 
> So gradle is an analog of maven, in that it provides dependency management in 
> the same fashion. However, the configuration is written in groovy (not my 
> favorite, but indeed a Turing complete language). Clearly the trade off would 
> be that Apache’s main set of libraries moves off its build system, and that 
> in itself may be a non-starter (I’m ok with that, but I feel the conversation 
> valuable). It seems like newer java projects favor a gradle build system 
> because most java developers these days heavily rely upon spring.
> 
> I honestly don’t know what the right direction here is, and I’m entirely open 
> minded to anything anyone in the community has to offer.
> 
> All the best,
> -Rob
> 
> 
>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:30 PM Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think we might be coming towards time to make this move or at least 
>>> accommodate for gradle builds in commons. Let’s look to the success the 
>>> Spring Framework has had here with gradle. That said, I’m merely trying to 
>>> gauge opinions here and am entirely content to stay with maven, if that’s 
>>> what the community wishes.
>>> 
>>> I’m a +1 on at least letting gradle be a part of our systems (don’t have to 
>>> get rid of maven either).
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Rob
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