On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Xeno Amess <xenoam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW.
> From my own view, we might need a testing maven project (or a github repo),
> for ensuring all commons repos can be used together, free of dependency
> hell, or other internal errors about using different versions of a same
> dependency.
>

This is not my goal at all here. If that's a goal for you, please see
https://gump.apache.org/

Gary


> But I admit that will really be a time-costing work, and be really hard.
> I don't know if we can achieve it by adding the "proper" repo and add a
> module pom at base folder, and adding some tests...
> Just, I think it useful.
>
>
> John Patrick <nhoj.patr...@gmail.com> 于2020年8月31日周一 下午9:51写道:
>
> > On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 14:16, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:11 AM Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Git submodules are pointers to other git commits. Therefore, any
> > component
> > > > changes made don’t affect the mono repo until you update said mono
> > repo to
> > > > point to the new commit. If you do this to point at the latest
> release
> > > > tags, this makes for less updates. Otherwise, you’ll want to figure
> > out a
> > > > CI system for automatically updating submodules to the latest master
> > > > commits as they pass CI.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Can that commit be HEAD?
> >
> > Used git submodules loads 2010-2015, and not much since. But from
> > memory it can't be HEAD it has to be a specific commit hash.
> >
> > We had loads of issues when people worked on the sub modules
> > independently, it was easier when every worked with the parent git
> > module. But that was early 2010's so it might now allow HEAD or a
> > named branch say develop or master/main.
> >
> > We also had loads of maven warnings because we had a wrapper project
> > so from the git parent module it saw the submodules as maven modules.
> > But the git parent module maven pom wasn't the parent pom of the git
> > submodules maven pom. As parent automatically is
> > <relativePath>../pom.xml</relativePath>
> >
> > Our setup was;
> >
> > git-module
> > -> pom.xml (GAV project:maven-wrapper:1)
> > -> git-submodule-parent
> > --> pom.xml (GAV project:parent:1)
> > -> git-submodule-core
> > --> pom.xml (GAV project:core:1, parent GAV project:parent:1) So
> > correct relative path is ../git-submodule-parent/poml.xml
> >
> > They had ~35 git submodules, not sure if they are still using submodules.
> >
> > So it can be useful if you want to have component based git repo's but
> > it does add an extra overhead layer of maintenance and everyone needs
> > to be onboard from experience.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:17 sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 15:01, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 9:47 AM Rob Tompkins <chtom...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:44 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some questions:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > - does it affect any existing usage?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >  i.e. can people continue to use the individual repos exactly
> > as
> > > > > before
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > no they can’t
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes they can... this would be a new repo, and changes nothing for
> > > > current
> > > > >
> > > > > > usage. This does not affect existing repos.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What about my other queries?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - changes to commit messages:
> > > > >
> > > > >  can people commit to components directly from the new repo?
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, does that change the commit messages?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - maintenance of the new repo:
> > > > >
> > > > > what is involved, and how will the project know when updates are
> > needed?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > - does it affect Git emails in any way?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >  e.g. do they have different text?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > same emails
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > - will it need much maintenance?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > If so, how do we know when it needs updating?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > more maintainance, have to maintain a git hash at a symlink
> > pointing
> > > > > to an
> > > > >
> > > > > > > external repository
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 14:26, Gary Gregory <
> > garydgreg...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Yes yes "girl" -> "git"
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 09:24 Gary Gregory <
> > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> I'm talking about girl's own submodules:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-submodule
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 09:09 Rob Tompkins <
> chtom...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> By git submodules, are you talking about a symlink to
> > another
> > > > git
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> repository inside one of our repositories?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Gary Gregory <
> > > > > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> Any thoughts for or against creating a new git repository
> > which
> > > > > would
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> contain all 'proper' Commons components as git
> submodules?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> The idea is to be able to checkout all of Commons
> 'proper'
> > in
> > > > > one go
> > > > >
> > > > > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>> one
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> place.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>> Gary
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > >
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