On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 12:01, Gavin McDonald <gmcdon...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi Gilles, > > I can not pretend to know how all projects and sub-projects at the ASF > publish their websites. > I have a had a look at the Commons page [1] for web publishing and it looks > like all Commons sub-projects under 'proper' do the build via Maven on their > own local machine/vm and upload the results via svn to [2]/ . > > That being the case, I believe all sub-projects of Commons are fine at the > moment , and that what is being deprecated here is the main Commons website > method of publishing. I believe that too to be fine as it has not used the > CMS itself in earnest for quite a while. > > [1] - https://commons.apache.org/site-publish.html > [2] - > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/proper/ > > As mentioned in the initial mail the SVN area at [2] is also going away at > some point being replaced by another SVN area, but that is not urgent today. > When that happens perhaps all you need to do is an svn switch to the new area > and adjust your publishing docs.
Or hopefully never, if Infra can be persuaded to keep the SVN location where it is. I have yet to see a convincing reason why it must be dropped. Indeed I have seen reference to the removal being 'self-imposed'. If it is removed, a lot of (unnecessary) work will be involved updating all the POMs. Sebb > HTH > > > > On 2022/01/05 07:46:16 Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 08:28, Gavin McDonald <gmcdon...@apache.org> a écrit > > : > > > > > > Bump > > > > I've seen your post, but I'm missing too much information (about why > > the setup is the way it is) to understand its impact, and to know what > > actions, if any, should be performed for individual components so that > > the current contents (a SVN-controlled "site-content" directory) will still > > be reachable using an URL like (for "Commons Math"): > > https://commons.apache.org/math > > > > > > > > Without an answer I'll have to go ahead. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Gilles > > > > > > > > On 2022/01/01 12:31:37 Gavin McDonald wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Top posting to clarify for Commons. > > > > > > > > Jenkins is not involved here. > > > > > > > > There is one build job called 'commons-site' > > > > > > > > I believe you no longer use it as it hasn't run since July 2021 > > > > > > > > https://ci.apache.org/builders/commons-site of which the config file > > > > lives at: > > > > > > > > [1] - > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/commons.conf > > > > > > > > However, there are other settings/files I also need to clarify. > > > > > > > > You still have a commons cms site area at: > > > > > > > > [2] - https://cms.apache.org/commons/ > > > > > > > > and also a CMS entry in svnwcsub: > > > > > > > > [3] - > > > > https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-p6/blob/production/modules/svnwcsub/files/svnwcsub.conf#L47 > > > > > > > > which is related to the content at: > > > > > > > > [4] - > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/ > > > > > > > > So you can see there are a number of CMS aspects here that need to be > > > > resolved. > > > > > > > > My understanding is that you no longer need [1] and [2] > > > > > > > > You still use [4] to place your generated content and so [3] is also > > > > needed. > > > > > > > > I have mentioned before that the location of [4] - a CMS specific > > > > location > > > > - needs to be replaced by an > > > > 'svn mv' to https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/sites/ [5] and that [3] > > > > would be updated to point to that location > > > > instead. Sebb indicated this would be a lot of work and that you needed > > > > time. It has been a while and nothing > > > > has yet been done. I will allow more time but please understand this > > > > MUST > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > My ask, for this migration period is that may I get confirmation that > > > > [1] > > > > and [2] can be removed/deleted. > > > > > > > > Hope that clarifies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 2:31 AM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 8:22 PM Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Le ven. 31 déc. 2021 à 14:17, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> > > > > > > a > > > > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRT Commons, CI is handled by GitHub actions > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever "handled" means here, is the sentence true for > > > > > > *all* components? > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought that "GH actions" was replacing Travis (for some > > > > > > components). > > > > > > > > > > > > > these days so I am not worried > > > > > > > about losing ci.a.o. > > > > > > > > > > > > If "ci" means "Jenkins", then I'm worried about > > > > > > Commons Math > > > > > > Commons RNG > > > > > > Commons Statistics > > > > > > Commons Numbers > > > > > > Commons Geometry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for correcting my "all". I've not tracked the above 5 > > > > > components > > > > > for a while. > > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If "ci" means web site publishing, I've no idea where we are. > > > > > > Last word (IIRC) was that requesting one git repository for > > > > > > each component's web site was overkill, and perhaps (?) > > > > > > not necessary. A seeming dissonance with this reminder... > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Gilles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TY > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:38 AM Gavin McDonald > > > > > > > <gmcdon...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (This email is BCC many (19) lists, please reply to > > > > > bui...@apache.org > > > > > > > > only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infra has set a FINAL date of January 31st 2022 for the turn > > > > > > > > off of > > > > > > > > ci.apache.org. This includes all of its nodes , of which the CMS > > > > > node > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > one. Therefore the CMS is also going to be gone on the 31st > > > > > > > > January > > > > > > 2022. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any project that still uses the CMS in any way shape or form, > > > > > > > > MUST > > > > > > migrate > > > > > > > > to another build and publish method. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any project using ci.apache.org for the building and > > > > > > testing/publishing of > > > > > > > > CI builds MUST also migrate away to another CI - the direct > > > > > > replacement is > > > > > > > > ci2.apache.org the new Buildbot 3.2 based instance. Publishing > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > Javadocs > > > > > > > > and versioned websites etc that normally publish to > > > > > > ci.apache.org/projects > > > > > > > > will need to migrate their jobs to ci2.apache.org and publish > > > > > results > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > nightlies.apache.org instead (via an rsync step). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects have been repeatedly informed of the deprecation of > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > ci.apache.org and also the CMS itself, so this notice should > > > > > > > > not be > > > > > a > > > > > > > > surprise to anybody. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have an INFRA ticket already open, or you don't > > > > > > > > know if > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > is an INFRA ticket already open for your project, please open > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > immediately so that we can get working on your migration ASAP. > > > > > > > > One or > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > projects I know of have a non-standard setup of publishing and > > > > > > > > so the > > > > > > > > earlier we get started the better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Below is a list of projects I know to still be using either the > > > > > > > > CMS > > > > > (in > > > > > > > > whole or in part) and ci.apache.org for CI builds, there may be > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects fully using the CMS > > > > > > > > ====================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Commons > > > > > > > > DB (and subprojects) > > > > > > > > Hive > > > > > > > > Oozie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects partially using the CMS > > > > > > > > ========================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lucene > > > > > > > > CXF > > > > > > > > Tapestry > > > > > > > > Santuario > > > > > > > > Geronimo > > > > > > > > Nutch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the above except Nutch I believe are exporting from > > > > > > > > Confluence > > > > > and > > > > > > > > committing to > > > > > > > > svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/ - I have been > > > > > working > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > alternate > > > > > > > > method that does not involve the CMS agent (or its dependents > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > build_external.pl) > > > > > > > > CXF and Tapestry at least have INFRA tickets open regarding > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects using ci.apache.org for CI jobs > > > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Board - board-site build. > > > > > > > > Perl/mod_perl - several test builds. > > > > > > > > AsterixDB - docs build > > > > > > > > HTTPD - test builds > > > > > > > > Juddi - Several test builds > > > > > > > > OpenJPA - Several test builds > > > > > > > > Creadur - Several test builds > > > > > > > > JMeter - test builds > > > > > > > > OpenNLP - site build ? > > > > > > > > Commons - site build ? > > > > > > > > Ponymail - site build ? > > > > > > > > TrafficServer - Test Build + site build ? > > > > > > > > Tapestry - test build > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All builds that need migrating can be seen on this page: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ci.apache.org/buildslaves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, those are the details, lets get started please people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gavin McDonald > > > > > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > > > > > ASF Infrastructure Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > *Gavin McDonald* > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > ASF Infrastructure Team > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
