Ok, like I said, not worried about this for now, something for later, for the now, I'd like to know if I can safely remove the rest of the CMS parts for commons website.
On 2022/01/12 13:27:17 sebb wrote: > Yes, all the component POMs will need to be updated. > > It's possible that there are consequential changes that need to be made as > well. > There was a long thread about this a while back; I don't remember all > the details. > > There are also Infra changes that have to be made. > Historically changes to some ASF website sources have needed manual > assistance, so there is potentially extra work for Infra as well the > edit to the file(s). > > Unless it really, really is essential, why make the change? > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 13:19, Gavin McDonald <gmcdon...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > And now the results have updated again, I see 45 files on the Github search. > > > > On 2022/01/12 13:12:40 Gavin McDonald wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2022/01/12 12:11:40 sebb wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > > > > Or hopefully never, if Infra can be persuaded to keep the SVN location > > > > where it is. > > > > > > > > I have yet to see a convincing reason why it must be dropped. > > > > Indeed I have seen reference to the removal being 'self-imposed'. > > > > > > > > If it is removed, a lot of (unnecessary) work will be involved > > > > updating all the POMs. > > > > > > I see 3 pom.xml files with a mention, and a howto doc > > > > > > https://github.com/search?q=org%3Aapache+https%3A%2F%2Fsvn.apache.org%2Frepos%2Finfra%2Fwebsites%2Fproduction%2Fcommons%2F&type=code > > > > > > I see the two scripts at > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/cms-site/trunk/ > > > which reference it. > > > > > > Where else please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022/01/05 07:46:16 Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mer. 5 janv. 2022 à 08:28, Gavin McDonald <gmcdon...@apache.org> > > > > > > a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bump > > > > > > > > > > > > I've seen your post, but I'm missing too much information (about why > > > > > > the setup is the way it is) to understand its impact, and to know > > > > > > what > > > > > > actions, if any, should be performed for individual components so > > > > > > that > > > > > > the current contents (a SVN-controlled "site-content" directory) > > > > > > will still > > > > > > be reachable using an URL like (for "Commons Math"): > > > > > > https://commons.apache.org/math > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without an answer I'll have to go ahead. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > Gilles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022/01/01 12:31:37 Gavin McDonald wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Top posting to clarify for Commons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jenkins is not involved here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one build job called 'commons-site' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe you no longer use it as it hasn't run since July 2021 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ci.apache.org/builders/commons-site of which the config > > > > > > > > file > > > > > > > > lives at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] - > > > > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/commons.conf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, there are other settings/files I also need to clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still have a commons cms site area at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] - https://cms.apache.org/commons/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and also a CMS entry in svnwcsub: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [3] - > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-p6/blob/production/modules/svnwcsub/files/svnwcsub.conf#L47 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is related to the content at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [4] - > > > > > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/commons/content/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you can see there are a number of CMS aspects here that need > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > resolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that you no longer need [1] and [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still use [4] to place your generated content and so [3] is > > > > > > > > also needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have mentioned before that the location of [4] - a CMS > > > > > > > > specific location > > > > > > > > - needs to be replaced by an > > > > > > > > 'svn mv' to https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/sites/ [5] and > > > > > > > > that [3] > > > > > > > > would be updated to point to that location > > > > > > > > instead. Sebb indicated this would be a lot of work and that > > > > > > > > you needed > > > > > > > > time. It has been a while and nothing > > > > > > > > has yet been done. I will allow more time but please understand > > > > > > > > this MUST > > > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My ask, for this migration period is that may I get > > > > > > > > confirmation that [1] > > > > > > > > and [2] can be removed/deleted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that clarifies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 2:31 AM Gary Gregory > > > > > > > > <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 8:22 PM Gilles Sadowski > > > > > > > > > <gillese...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le ven. 31 déc. 2021 à 14:17, Gary Gregory > > > > > > > > > > <garydgreg...@gmail.com> a > > > > > > > > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRT Commons, CI is handled by GitHub actions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever "handled" means here, is the sentence true for > > > > > > > > > > *all* components? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought that "GH actions" was replacing Travis (for some > > > > > > > > > > components). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these days so I am not worried > > > > > > > > > > > about losing ci.a.o. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If "ci" means "Jenkins", then I'm worried about > > > > > > > > > > Commons Math > > > > > > > > > > Commons RNG > > > > > > > > > > Commons Statistics > > > > > > > > > > Commons Numbers > > > > > > > > > > Commons Geometry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for correcting my "all". I've not tracked the above > > > > > > > > > 5 components > > > > > > > > > for a while. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If "ci" means web site publishing, I've no idea where we > > > > > > > > > > are. > > > > > > > > > > Last word (IIRC) was that requesting one git repository for > > > > > > > > > > each component's web site was overkill, and perhaps (?) > > > > > > > > > > not necessary. A seeming dissonance with this reminder... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Gilles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TY > > > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:38 AM Gavin McDonald > > > > > > > > > > > <gmcdon...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (This email is BCC many (19) lists, please reply to > > > > > > > > > bui...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > only) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infra has set a FINAL date of January 31st 2022 for the > > > > > > > > > > > > turn off of > > > > > > > > > > > > ci.apache.org. This includes all of its nodes , of > > > > > > > > > > > > which the CMS > > > > > > > > > node > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > one. Therefore the CMS is also going to be gone on the > > > > > > > > > > > > 31st January > > > > > > > > > > 2022. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any project that still uses the CMS in any way shape or > > > > > > > > > > > > form, MUST > > > > > > > > > > migrate > > > > > > > > > > > > to another build and publish method. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any project using ci.apache.org for the building and > > > > > > > > > > testing/publishing of > > > > > > > > > > > > CI builds MUST also migrate away to another CI - the > > > > > > > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > > > > replacement is > > > > > > > > > > > > ci2.apache.org the new Buildbot 3.2 based instance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Publishing of > > > > > > > > > > Javadocs > > > > > > > > > > > > and versioned websites etc that normally publish to > > > > > > > > > > ci.apache.org/projects > > > > > > > > > > > > will need to migrate their jobs to ci2.apache.org and > > > > > > > > > > > > publish > > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > nightlies.apache.org instead (via an rsync step). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects have been repeatedly informed of the > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecation of both > > > > > > > > > > > > ci.apache.org and also the CMS itself, so this notice > > > > > > > > > > > > should not be > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > surprise to anybody. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have an INFRA ticket already open, or you > > > > > > > > > > > > don't know if > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > is an INFRA ticket already open for your project, > > > > > > > > > > > > please open one > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately so that we can get working on your > > > > > > > > > > > > migration ASAP. One or > > > > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > > > > > projects I know of have a non-standard setup of > > > > > > > > > > > > publishing and so the > > > > > > > > > > > > earlier we get started the better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Below is a list of projects I know to still be using > > > > > > > > > > > > either the CMS > > > > > > > > > (in > > > > > > > > > > > > whole or in part) and ci.apache.org for CI builds, > > > > > > > > > > > > there may be > > > > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects fully using the CMS > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Commons > > > > > > > > > > > > DB (and subprojects) > > > > > > > > > > > > Hive > > > > > > > > > > > > Oozie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects partially using the CMS > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lucene > > > > > > > > > > > > CXF > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapestry > > > > > > > > > > > > Santuario > > > > > > > > > > > > Geronimo > > > > > > > > > > > > Nutch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the above except Nutch I believe are exporting from > > > > > > > > > > > > Confluence > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > committing to > > > > > > > > > > > > svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/ - I > > > > > > > > > > > > have been > > > > > > > > > working > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > alternate > > > > > > > > > > > > method that does not involve the CMS agent (or its > > > > > > > > > > > > dependents like > > > > > > > > > > > > build_external.pl) > > > > > > > > > > > > CXF and Tapestry at least have INFRA tickets open > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Projects using ci.apache.org for CI jobs > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Board - board-site build. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perl/mod_perl - several test builds. > > > > > > > > > > > > AsterixDB - docs build > > > > > > > > > > > > HTTPD - test builds > > > > > > > > > > > > Juddi - Several test builds > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenJPA - Several test builds > > > > > > > > > > > > Creadur - Several test builds > > > > > > > > > > > > JMeter - test builds > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenNLP - site build ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Commons - site build ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ponymail - site build ? > > > > > > > > > > > > TrafficServer - Test Build + site build ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapestry - test build > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All builds that need migrating can be seen on this page: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ci.apache.org/buildslaves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, those are the details, lets get started please > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gavin McDonald > > > > > > > > > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > > > > > > > > > ASF Infrastructure Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Gavin McDonald* > > > > > > > > Systems Administrator > > > > > > > > ASF Infrastructure Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
