On 2015-03-08 12:47, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
Le dimanche 8 mars 2015 11:28:22 Daniel Gruno a écrit :
- "Whereas the old pages were basic, the new ones have kind of an unusual
dark theme to them and look unpolished (vs. just plain as the old one)"
(copy/paste of another feedback that perfectly summarised a feeling I
could not express better)
Heh, not really a technical argument ;-) But if people feel it's too
dark, they are more than welcome to submit a patch for something lighter :)
yes, I'll try :)
- can we have a link to source? how can we submit patches? how can we test
for ourselves improvement ideas before submitting patches? This is really
a good start, but IMHO, if we don't have community involved in updates,
this new site will loose a great opportunity to have contributors (unless
it is a choice to avoid contributors)
It's under the comdev banner, and as such, is available at
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/
great, I'll have a look
- why doesn't this use the CMS for some classical pages? Should not some
parts of the old site be added to the new graphic content? While graphics
and generated content are great, I think that some handwritten content
would be useful (to explain where data come from, for example, or what
happened to DOAP, or how to contribute...)
All excellent points. If you check out the source, you can see that all
doap files have been converted to JSON instead.
you mean that projects should not update DOAP files any more but these json
files? I really missed the info (and this means we should perhaps move maven-
doap-plugin to the Attic...)
As for CMS, I don't see any reason to use the CMS compared to just
editing it in svn - it's 4-5 pages, each around 10 lines of html, not a
500+ page behemoth.
CMS has staging, no?
And perhaps the site is tiny because there is no easy editing: chicken and
egg. IMHO, this new site has great graphics, but it really requires more than
graphics. And the CMS could be part of the solution to do that.
I'm not sure the CMS would add anything but trouble to this, as the site
is tied to svn two-way; It reads data but also commits it back to SVN
when changes occur. Furthermore, I'm not sure the CMS would work for
non-tlp sites...I've never tried that :) and it would still be
restricted to comdev in any case.
- the idea of online editing is great, but not knowing what happens behind
the scene, I fear to add sub-projects: what sub-projects should be added?
can sub- projects be removed if the addition gives unexpected result?
A delete feature would make sense, yes. As for what can be added, that's
really up to the project, just as it was with the doap files. If you
feel something in your project is a sub project in itself, you can add it.
IIUC, the online editing just updates
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/site/json/projects/
?
Then editing these files is the way to track changes, or do what the online
editing doesn't have any feature to do?
When you edit a project's JSON file, it triggers an email to this list,
detailing what was edited.
There is also (now) a job on the machine that updates it in SVN. The svn
goes both ways; You can update something online and it will be committed
to svn, or you can edit the json object in svn directly and it will be
checked out on the machine.
- what should we do with DOAP? Did I miss some explanations on private@ or
dev@ ML from a project I'm working on?
DOAP will be replaced by the online editing. We haven't contacted
projects about this yet, but on the other hand, I don't think we'd just
change the DNS without letting folks know what we were doing. It's only
been in testing so far. Once it was on the path to becoming something
more official, surely projects would be included more.
what is great with DOAP is that there is a schema: is there something
equivalent with json?
But it also requires people other than me to chip in - I only have so
many hands and feet :)
now that we know where the source code is, I hope people will involve.
How do we send patches? To you in person?
No, you send them to this ML :) This is a comdev project, not a
Humbedooh project ;)
Regards,
Hervé
With regards,
Daniel.
Please take this feedback as constructive feedback: I really like the new
site, just need some little improvements to get out of beta and make a
public release :)
Regards,
Hervé
Le vendredi 6 mars 2015 11:52:35 Rich Bowen a écrit :
I'd like for us to go ahead and replace projects.apache.org with
projects-new.apache.org. It now has all the functionality that
projects.a.o has, and much more, and there's no reason to have two sites
up. If you object to moving forward with this, please say so.
[ ] +1, do it
[ ] +0, whatevs
[ ] -1, No (and say why, so we can address the problem)
--Rich
