On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 08:01 Naomi Slater <n...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
On Sat 30. Mar 2019 at 07:02, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: But, I'm sure you'll have a good D&I initiative if you continue to marginalize people like you did there; treat others as insignificant or peripheral. "marginalize" *Inigo Montoya voice* you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means It is used to fit exactly the response I feel received. I feel like "so we agree on finding ways to increase diversity are good and we lack it (thus we have common ground), but since you don't agree this big list of negative things that we haven't made clear exists, that sucks and is evil, is the cause, that also makes Apache suck, then you're ignorant and part of this horrible problem, so we don't value you"... is exactly marginalizing me, my opinion, and others; treating them as insignificant; lots of feelings in this; I expressed I see correlation not causation in what is said about Apache and meritocracy as applied here. Replace my opinion on the part I feel isn't clear with race or any other physical or mental attribute for a mental experiment. This also reenforces some of my internal concerns with this. That often people are apt to overreact and overreach, and when it changes an environment containing people and processes, it is more important to keep that in mind. What is this going to look and feel like (for the humans here)? How about a wiki page enumerating something other than correlation from the data points Apache has about Apache specifically? That would be helpful. I know I have limited time to contribute to the projects I use, and I suspect others do as well, and may help sell the points where people are not getting it. Thanks Wade
