Hi all,

sorry for being late to the party.
I totally agree with all that has been written.
And although I will not be able to participate I think we should work on having 
them correct that (on paper and in their minds).
Probably we could even do that as an official statement of the ASF or use some 
contacts to other OSS initiatives.
As I see that as a rather general matter to hijack "OSS".

What do you think?

Julian

Am 06.10.19, 11:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:

    Hi Michael,
    
    Yes, that too was my impression. I remember the amount of work you put in 
here. But it seems that Siemens likes to appear open without actually being 
open for open source. That's why I contacted the organizers and tried to 
convince them to correct this paragraph and suffered that they invite tuely 
open open-source communities.
    
    I'll be discussing with my boss, if I can attend.
    
    Chris
    
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    From: Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org>
    Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:31:01 PM
    To: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org>; Christofer Dutz 
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de>; i...@apache.org <i...@apache.org>
    Subject: Re: Workshop about the future of Open Source Software and Open 
Source Hardware
    
    Am 2019-10-05 um 17:20 schrieb Christofer Dutz:
    > Hi,
    >
    > Lukasz just posted this on the plc4x slack channel mainly because of 
Siemens’ attempt to appear open:
    > “There are also B2B Open Source platforms: Siemens’ MindSphere offers a 
managed open source Platform-as-a-Service for developing cross-platform 
applications” (Which it clearly is not).
    >
    > But when I read through the Agenda I think it might be a good idea to 
show up with a little Apache delegation:
    > 
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/workshop-about-future-open-source-software-and-open-source-hardware
    >
    > Seems to be not a Workshop where you are fuled up with some stuff, but 
where people come together to form the appearance of Open-Source in the 
Industry.
    
    This cannot be right/true. I have tried for more than a year to engage
    with DI (digital infrastructure) and utterly failed. My fellow coworker
    in Nuremberg told me that we (DI) don't want to engage with the OSS
    community at any kind of level. After that, I left the topic w/o any
    prosperity for the company and the OSS community.
    
    Michael
    
    


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