Hey,
this would probably be interesting for @Kai Wähner who is also kind of an
Apache Guy (and wears an OSS Hat aswell!).
Julian
Am 07.10.19, 11:26 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
They already changed the wording slightly ... now they write that Siemens
MindSphere USES a lot of Open-Source software.
Still not happy with it being mentioned directly after the: "There are a
lot of Open-Source platforms", but it sort of feels as if Siemens had pulled
some strings to be mentioned here (The official Agenda doesn't even mention
"Siemens" or "MindSphere")
I just discussed this with my boss and I'll probably be going.
Would however be great to show up there with a little (or a big) Apache
delegation.
The big commercial players could be showing up with quite a delegation.
After all it's not about Apache PLC4X, but could involve a great portion of
what Apache does.
And especially the Panel discussions about:
"Panel 2.2: Nurturing Open Source Communities
In the backdrop of the increasing popularity and use of open source
software, it is a paradox that many open source projects continue to
struggle to sustain themselves. Remarkably, sustainability issues
afflict not just the small and medium-sized project, but also some of
the larger and well-known ones.
The success of open source software initiatives often goes hand in
hand with the success of their communities. So what are the success
factors leading to a sustainable community? What are the key
challenges open source projects face? More importantly, what can
and should be done about the sustainability and funding issue?
This session invites a brief discussion to identify key sustainability
concerns, followed by two deeper debates on practical
proposals/solutions to solve (i) Sustainability issues (ii) Funding
issues. The session combines results and inputs from the
Commission’s EU-FOSSA project and the Commission’s Open
Source Observatory (OSOR)"
"Panel 7: Improving openness, trust and security thanks to open
source
The advent of emerging technologies like Artificial Intelligence and
block chain and the exponential increase on cybersecurity threats
made the demand for security, trust and transparency in decision
making as key priorities in designing ICT systems. Open source is seen
as a mechanism to ensure such characteristics. The purpose of this
session is to highlight the role of Open Source towards achieving
security, trust and transparency in decision-making. What are the
strengths but also what are the weaknesses and limitations? The
session combines results and inputs from the Commission’s EUFOSSA project."
Chris
Am 07.10.19, 10:38 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>:
Hi all,
sorry for being late to the party.
I totally agree with all that has been written.
And although I will not be able to participate I think we should work
on having them correct that (on paper and in their minds).
Probably we could even do that as an official statement of the ASF or
use some contacts to other OSS initiatives.
As I see that as a rather general matter to hijack "OSS".
What do you think?
Julian
Am 06.10.19, 11:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz"
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
Hi Michael,
Yes, that too was my impression. I remember the amount of work you
put in here. But it seems that Siemens likes to appear open without actually
being open for open source. That's why I contacted the organizers and tried to
convince them to correct this paragraph and suffered that they invite tuely
open open-source communities.
I'll be discussing with my boss, if I can attend.
Chris
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To: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org>; Christofer
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Subject: Re: Workshop about the future of Open Source Software and
Open Source Hardware
Am 2019-10-05 um 17:20 schrieb Christofer Dutz:
> Hi,
>
> Lukasz just posted this on the plc4x slack channel mainly because
of Siemens’ attempt to appear open:
> “There are also B2B Open Source platforms: Siemens’ MindSphere
offers a managed open source Platform-as-a-Service for developing
cross-platform applications” (Which it clearly is not).
>
> But when I read through the Agenda I think it might be a good
idea to show up with a little Apache delegation:
>
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/workshop-about-future-open-source-software-and-open-source-hardware
>
> Seems to be not a Workshop where you are fuled up with some
stuff, but where people come together to form the appearance of Open-Source in
the Industry.
This cannot be right/true. I have tried for more than a year to
engage
with DI (digital infrastructure) and utterly failed. My fellow
coworker
in Nuremberg told me that we (DI) don't want to engage with the OSS
community at any kind of level. After that, I left the topic w/o any
prosperity for the company and the OSS community.
Michael
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