This would be very interesting and make sense. Unfortunately, I am back in the US during that time, so not able to attend.
Kai On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:46 AM Julian Feinauer < j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> wrote: > Hey, > > this would probably be interesting for @Kai Wähner who is also kind of an > Apache Guy (and wears an OSS Hat aswell!). > > Julian > > Am 07.10.19, 11:26 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>: > > Hi all, > > They already changed the wording slightly ... now they write that > Siemens MindSphere USES a lot of Open-Source software. > Still not happy with it being mentioned directly after the: "There are > a lot of Open-Source platforms", but it sort of feels as if Siemens had > pulled some strings to be mentioned here (The official Agenda doesn't even > mention "Siemens" or "MindSphere") > > I just discussed this with my boss and I'll probably be going. > Would however be great to show up there with a little (or a big) > Apache delegation. > The big commercial players could be showing up with quite a delegation. > After all it's not about Apache PLC4X, but could involve a great > portion of what Apache does. > And especially the Panel discussions about: > > "Panel 2.2: Nurturing Open Source Communities > In the backdrop of the increasing popularity and use of open source > software, it is a paradox that many open source projects continue to > struggle to sustain themselves. Remarkably, sustainability issues > afflict not just the small and medium-sized project, but also some of > the larger and well-known ones. > The success of open source software initiatives often goes hand in > hand with the success of their communities. So what are the success > factors leading to a sustainable community? What are the key > challenges open source projects face? More importantly, what can > and should be done about the sustainability and funding issue? > This session invites a brief discussion to identify key sustainability > concerns, followed by two deeper debates on practical > proposals/solutions to solve (i) Sustainability issues (ii) Funding > issues. The session combines results and inputs from the > Commission’s EU-FOSSA project and the Commission’s Open > Source Observatory (OSOR)" > > "Panel 7: Improving openness, trust and security thanks to open > source > The advent of emerging technologies like Artificial Intelligence and > block chain and the exponential increase on cybersecurity threats > made the demand for security, trust and transparency in decision > making as key priorities in designing ICT systems. Open source is seen > as a mechanism to ensure such characteristics. The purpose of this > session is to highlight the role of Open Source towards achieving > security, trust and transparency in decision-making. What are the > strengths but also what are the weaknesses and limitations? The > session combines results and inputs from the Commission’s EUFOSSA > project." > > Chris > > Am 07.10.19, 10:38 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" < > j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>: > > Hi all, > > sorry for being late to the party. > I totally agree with all that has been written. > And although I will not be able to participate I think we should > work on having them correct that (on paper and in their minds). > Probably we could even do that as an official statement of the ASF > or use some contacts to other OSS initiatives. > As I see that as a rather general matter to hijack "OSS". > > What do you think? > > Julian > > Am 06.10.19, 11:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" < > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>: > > Hi Michael, > > Yes, that too was my impression. I remember the amount of work > you put in here. But it seems that Siemens likes to appear open without > actually being open for open source. That's why I contacted the organizers > and tried to convince them to correct this paragraph and suffered that they > invite tuely open open-source communities. > > I'll be discussing with my boss, if I can attend. > > Chris > > Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> > Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 6:31:01 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org <dev@community.apache.org>; > Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>; i...@apache.org < > i...@apache.org> > Subject: Re: Workshop about the future of Open Source Software > and Open Source Hardware > > Am 2019-10-05 um 17:20 schrieb Christofer Dutz: > > Hi, > > > > Lukasz just posted this on the plc4x slack channel mainly > because of Siemens’ attempt to appear open: > > “There are also B2B Open Source platforms: Siemens’ > MindSphere offers a managed open source Platform-as-a-Service for > developing cross-platform applications” (Which it clearly is not). > > > > But when I read through the Agenda I think it might be a > good idea to show up with a little Apache delegation: > > > https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/workshop-about-future-open-source-software-and-open-source-hardware > > > > Seems to be not a Workshop where you are fuled up with some > stuff, but where people come together to form the appearance of Open-Source > in the Industry. > > This cannot be right/true. I have tried for more than a year > to engage > with DI (digital infrastructure) and utterly failed. My fellow > coworker > in Nuremberg told me that we (DI) don't want to engage with > the OSS > community at any kind of level. After that, I left the topic > w/o any > prosperity for the company and the OSS community. > > Michael > > > > > > ?B�KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKCB�?�?[��X��ܚX�K??K[XZ[?�?[�?][��X��ܚX�P?\?X�?K�ܙ�B��܈?Y??]?[ۘ[??��[X[�?�??K[XZ[?�?[�?Z?[???\?X�?K�ܙ�B� > > > ?B�KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKCB�?�?[��X��ܚX�K??K[XZ[?�?[�?][��X��ܚX�P?\?X�?K�ܙ�B��܈?Y??]?[ۘ[??��[X[�?�??K[XZ[?�?[�?Z?[???\?X�?K�ܙ�B� > >
