Thanks Rich, I've not been tracking the discussion, but I have full confidence in the team here. I would be happy to provide a fresh set of eyes on a first draft of a proposal - trying to find the spaces that might raise objection that can thus be fleshed out ahead of time.
Ross ________________________________________ From: Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 6:58 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache I wonder if we have discussed this into the ground sufficiently to come up with a proposal that we can vote on and report to the board on? I think there's been great discussion, and that we have consensus on a number of things. And there are several local groups waiting for answers, as well as some that appear to have taken silence as endorsement. On 12/4/19 3:15 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > I've made two posts on this list in the past couple of days regarding > the rising ACL effort and my concerns about it. > > I *desperately* want this kind of grass-roots enthusiast community > effort. I do NOT want to kill it. But I've learned from Fedora user > groups that allowing any random stranger to start up a group, using our > Trademarks, to promote whatever message comes into their head, is > *going* to bite us in the butt, sooner rather than later. > > This is *NOT* about the Indore group and their recent event. Rather it's > about the future. The groups currently out there are full of experienced > Apache people. All well and good. The second wave will be full of people > wanting to promote their business, or their personal brand, using our > name, and spreading misinformation about Apache under our official banner. > > We *cannot* allow this to happen. To do so would be a dereliction of our > duty as a PMC. We must plan for the bad actors, even while enabling the > good actors. > > I'm not entirely sure what I'm proposing, but I think that requiring, at > this stage, at least one Member to be involved in the creation and > mentoring of a new group, is a reasonable path. > > A brief discussion of these issues has occurred on the > priv...@community.apache.org mailing list, where I was rightfully called > out for having the conversation in private rather than in public. So, > moving the conversation here, as is appropriate. > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com http://rcbowen.com/ @rbowen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
