Thanks Jarek for your kind words.

Etienne

Le 30/03/2022 à 13:28, Jarek Potiuk a écrit :
I love the post. Very close to my observations :). I think we need
more such positivity :)

J.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:12 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote:
You're very welcome, Etienne. Thank *you*!

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, at 05:23, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
Thanks a lot Sally and Joe !

Best

Etienne.

Le 30/03/2022 à 00:29, Sally Khudairi a écrit :
Thank you again for the updates, Etienne.

I've published the blog post, which is available from:

  - The ASF's "Foundation" blog 
https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/success-at-apache-my-experience
  - @TheASF Twitter feed https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/1508932452349263872
  - The ASF on LinkedIn 
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6914698471895613440/

...plus sent to announce@ and our media/analyst and sponsors lists. This will 
appear on the apache.org homepage and archives within the hour.

We appreciate your contribution to the Success at Apache series!

Best,
Sally

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:53, Sally Khudairi wrote:
Actually ...every link from the gdoc points to the same Blogger URL.

Kindly advise/correct.

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Sally

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:49, Sally Khudairi wrote:
Thank you, Etienne.

I'm getting ready to publish, but see that the link for "PMC Member" and "ASF 
Member" both point to 
https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949# which resolves to 
https://www.blogger.com/dashboard/reading

Something is wrong with that. I'm happy to remove the links altogether or 
change. What is in place isn't right.

Best,
Sally

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 09:36, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
Hi Sally,

Thank you very much ! Sorry I just saw your email. Here is the bio:

Etienne has been working in software engineering for more than 15 years and is now 
specialized in Big Data. He is an Open Source fan, and contributes to Apache projects 
such as Apache Beam, Apache Flink or Apache Spark. He is also the author of the "Big 
data Chronicles" blog (https://echauchot.blogspot.com/). He is an Apache Beam 
committer and PMC member and also an Apache Foundation member.

Best

Etienne

Le 28/03/2022 à 13:48, Sally Khudairi a écrit :
Etienne --please send me a short bio (~50-75 words) so I can publish today.

Many thanks,
Sally

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:20, Sally Khudairi wrote:
Thank you, Etienne.

I'll get on this today and will let you know when we're live.

Best,
Sally

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:02, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
Hi Sally,

Joe and I have finished the final review round on the article. Can you publish 
it on the Success at Apache blog ?

A google doc was shared to you on: khuda...@gmail.com

Thanks

Best

Etienne Chauchot



Le 22/03/2022 à 17:25, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
Hi Joe,

Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is.

Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions !

Best

Etienne

Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
Hey all,

I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. Sorry for the 
delay, just got buried in my inbox.

Best,

jzb

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote:
Thank you, Etienne.

Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience.

Best,
Sally

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
Hi Sally,

Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can review my 
article and post it on Success at Apache blog ?

Thanks

Best

Etienne

Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
Hi Joe,

Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article draft you wanted 
that I sent last week ?

Best

Etienne

Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
Hi Joe,

Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need to discuss the 
content of this article.

When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the Success at Apache 
blog and then I'll link to my personal blog.

Best

Etienne

Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
Hi Joe,

Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it and tell me if I can post it 
in "Success at Apache" and in my personnal blog also (through a link to the 
ASF) .

Best

Etienne

title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society ?*



🕥 7 min.

Introducion

     I have been working in software engineering for more than 15 years. I've always contributed to 
Open Source software as a user or a coder. But I've been contributing to ASF 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> projects such as 
Apache Flink <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, 
Apache Beam <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> or 
Apache Spark <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> for 
nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I find *the Apache Way* is almost the best way to 
collaborate on software engineering.

     I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a lot of good content about 
that already. I will rather link to the official Apache documentation 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
 I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know it already.

     My point here is to describe the consequences of the Apache Way as I see them. Of 
course, every Apache community is different, but what I wanted to emphasize is that 
applying the Apache Way by the book could lead to what I'd call a "perfect 
society" even if this word seems a bit naive and over optimistic or even utopian.

A perfect society


*Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me !*

The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities behave like a sort 
of perfect society:

     The community is governed by merit: everything is about what you do inside the 
community and at some point your efforts are noted and you get credit for your work 
by obtaining more rights (direct access to the project repositories, election of 
committers 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
 etc..). Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and voting for the best 
one leads to the best possible state of the project in the end. The best idea always 
wins in the long term.

     The software is not driven by money: no private concerns should take over. When 
the incubation process is well advanced, before graduation, the ASF bord 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
 makes sure that the aspiring community is well developed (users and developers 
communities are big enough), healthy and also not owned by a single company and its 
private financial considerations. This ensures best decisions for the software itself 
but also a long term maintenance of the software.

     It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is considered equal no 
matter your personal background, your education, ethnic or nationality, every 
contribution is good to take. Community members recognize that people skills 
may be different and complementary to theirs. So contributions might come from 
anyone, from anywhere and in any form (blog post, documentation, talk, code, 
website...)

     Communities are welcoming: they always search for new talents to join their forces. Be 
welcoming is always very important to build and grow a community. The Open Source community 
is also a great place for people to grow. The way people collaborate is generally by 
mentoring. Experienced contributors help new comers or experts share their thoughts with 
others. It is really also a good way for mentors to share their passion and inspire 
mentorees. Mentoring is even in the DNA of the ASF starting with the incubator 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> when 
the podling community profits from the experience and advice of a mentor to grow in the 
Apache Way and become a top level project 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.

     Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but only technical 
leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated and I must say that it is the 
best form of motivation ever! Decision making is both simple and efficient: 
there is no solely decision, feedback is always very important. People are 
willing to share their thoughts and solve the problems together.

     Community members are always benevolent: they are always willing to share 
their thoughts, review PRs, share advice, accept change requests or bug 
tickets. People are wiling to accept criticism without being defensive. The 
master word is transparency.

     Last but not least, people behave friendly: public communication (one of the ASF 
master words is "what did not happen publicly never happened") forces people to 
communicate in a positive way: for example by asking questions or suggesting rather than 
affirming or asking for thoughts rather than disagreeing bluntly. An Open Source 
contributor always tries to put himself in the other person's shoes, trying to not hurt 
his feelings and to not demotivate him.

=> Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the way we all would 
like people and society in
general to behave, no ?

Daily life


     The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some years of applying 
this philosophy (I was told lately that it felt almost like a religion 😄) at 
work on a full time basis, you start applying it to daily life outside of work. 
It becomes your standard way of behaving in society: meritocracy becomes a 
second nature, for example you reward your home builders with gifts and public 
credit because they did a good job, you reward your kids for good school work 
etc... You also start to give time to others and share your knowledge, 
mentoring becomes a second nature.  Another big thing which is very visible is 
that you now always take good care to give positive communication, leading to 
positive and constructive thinking. Positivism also becomes a second nature.

     On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit never expires. So, if you 
gain committership on a project, or become a PMC member 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> or 
even an ASF member 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, it 
is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs for your whole career. This is an 
incredible credit and a tremendous trust mark !

Can be a bit challenging


In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to temper a bit:

     I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, I felt 
intimidated. Community members are generally very senior level and very high 
skilled developers. But, remember what is written above: every contribution is 
good to take. And, with time and mentoring, everyone deserves his place inside 
the community.

     The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is to find where to start: 
some projects are old enough to have a large community so the amount of code is 
pretty high. But here again mentoring comes into play: mentors can give you pointers 
on hot topics, starter tickets or simply areas that need maintenance. And within 
time, you'll be recognized as an expert in a given area and the exciting subjects 
will come to you. And if you feel like you want to join a smaller community try 
joining a project which is still in the incubator 
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
 phase !

Conclusion


I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the envy to join a 
Open Source community.




Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
Hi Joe,

Thanks for your answer and your views !

Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then, after review, we could 
publish to the ASF blog in "Success at Apache" and I can definitely link to the 
ASF blog post in my personal blog so that there is only one publishing place.

Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers to be informed, 
but I totally agree, it would be redundant. So I propose that we just link an 
article about the Apache Way at the beginning of my article. Do you have a good 
link to send me ?

I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the article, that was 
indeed the whole point of the article !

WDYT ?

Thanks.

Etienne.

Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
Hi Etienne,

Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first go-around.

Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? Ideally we'd post in one 
place. If not we can always promote it on Twitter and LinkedIn.

 From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from describing "The Apache 
Way" and focus on your experience instead. The Apache Way has been covered, at 
length, already. I'd focus on what your success looks like.

Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success would be great.

Thanks!

jzb

On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi Bertrand!

Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog post and send a
link here.

Best

Etienne Chauchot

Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
Hi Etienne,

Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit :
...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing the blog post ? ...
I don't have decision power on what's published in "Success at Apache"
but I'd say go for it!

An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince people, and if they're
not convinced there's lots of other places where you can post.

-Bertrand

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