I love the post. Very close to my observations :). I think we need
more such positivity :)

J.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:12 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> You're very welcome, Etienne. Thank *you*!
>
> - - -
> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
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>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, at 05:23, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Sally and Joe !
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Etienne.
> >
> > Le 30/03/2022 à 00:29, Sally Khudairi a écrit :
> >> Thank you again for the updates, Etienne.
> >>
> >> I've published the blog post, which is available from:
> >>
> >>  - The ASF's "Foundation" blog 
> >> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/success-at-apache-my-experience
> >>  - @TheASF Twitter feed 
> >> https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/1508932452349263872
> >>  - The ASF on LinkedIn 
> >> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6914698471895613440/
> >>
> >> ...plus sent to announce@ and our media/analyst and sponsors lists. This 
> >> will appear on the apache.org homepage and archives within the hour.
> >>
> >> We appreciate your contribution to the Success at Apache series!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Sally
> >>
> >> - - -
> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:53, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> >>> Actually ...every link from the gdoc points to the same Blogger URL.
> >>>
> >>> Kindly advise/correct.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Sally
> >>>
> >>> - - -
> >>> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >>> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>>
> >>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:49, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> >>>> Thank you, Etienne.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm getting ready to publish, but see that the link for "PMC Member" and 
> >>>> "ASF Member" both point to 
> >>>> https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#
> >>>>  which resolves to https://www.blogger.com/dashboard/reading
> >>>>
> >>>> Something is wrong with that. I'm happy to remove the links altogether 
> >>>> or change. What is in place isn't right.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Sally
> >>>>
> >>>> - - -
> >>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >>>> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 09:36, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Sally,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you very much ! Sorry I just saw your email. Here is the bio:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Etienne has been working in software engineering for more than 15 years 
> >>>>> and is now specialized in Big Data. He is an Open Source fan, and 
> >>>>> contributes to Apache projects such as Apache Beam, Apache Flink or 
> >>>>> Apache Spark. He is also the author of the "Big data Chronicles" blog 
> >>>>> (https://echauchot.blogspot.com/). He is an Apache Beam committer and 
> >>>>> PMC member and also an Apache Foundation member.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Etienne
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 28/03/2022 à 13:48, Sally Khudairi a écrit :
> >>>>>> Etienne --please send me a short bio (~50-75 words) so I can publish 
> >>>>>> today.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Many thanks,
> >>>>>> Sally
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - - -
> >>>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:20, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> >>>>>>> Thank you, Etienne.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll get on this today and will let you know when we're live.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> Sally
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - - -
> >>>>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >>>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:02, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Sally,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Joe and I have finished the final review round on the article. Can 
> >>>>>>>> you publish it on the Success at Apache blog ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A google doc was shared to you on: khuda...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Etienne Chauchot
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:25, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions !
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Etienne
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. 
> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just got buried in my inbox.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> jzb
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> 
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Etienne.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sally
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> - - -
> >>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sally,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> review my article and post it on Success at Apache blog ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> draft you wanted that I sent last week ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to discuss the content of this article.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Success at Apache blog and then I'll link to my personal blog.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tell me if I can post it in "Success at Apache" and in my 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personnal blog also (through a link to the ASF) .
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 🕥 7 min.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Introducion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have been working in software engineering for more than 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15 years. I've always contributed to Open Source software as 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a user or a coder. But I've been contributing to ASF 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  projects such as Apache Flink 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Apache Beam 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  or Apache Spark 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find *the Apache Way* is almost the best way to collaborate 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on software engineering.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of good content about that already. I will rather link to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the official Apache documentation 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it already.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     My point here is to describe the consequences of the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Way as I see them. Of course, every Apache community 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is different, but what I wanted to emphasize is that applying 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way by the book could lead to what I'd call a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "perfect society" even if this word seems a bit naive and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over optimistic or even utopian.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A perfect society
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> !*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behave like a sort of perfect society:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The community is governed by merit: everything is about 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you do inside the community and at some point your 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts are noted and you get credit for your work by 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining more rights (direct access to the project 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories, election of committers 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  etc..). Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and voting for the best one leads to the best possible state 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the project in the end. The best idea always wins in the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The software is not driven by money: no private concerns 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should take over. When the incubation process is well 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advanced, before graduation, the ASF bord 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  makes sure that the aspiring community is well developed 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (users and developers communities are big enough), healthy 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and also not owned by a single company and its private 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financial considerations. This ensures best decisions for the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software itself but also a long term maintenance of the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered equal no matter your personal background, your 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education, ethnic or nationality, every contribution is good 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to take. Community members recognize that people skills may 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different and complementary to theirs. So contributions 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might come from anyone, from anywhere and in any form (blog 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post, documentation, talk, code, website...)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Communities are welcoming: they always search for new 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talents to join their forces. Be welcoming is always very 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important to build and grow a community. The Open Source 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community is also a great place for people to grow. The way 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people collaborate is generally by mentoring. Experienced 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors help new comers or experts share their thoughts 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with others. It is really also a good way for mentors to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share their passion and inspire mentorees. Mentoring is even 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the DNA of the ASF starting with the incubator 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  when the podling community profits from the experience and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advice of a mentor to grow in the Apache Way and become a top 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level project 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only technical leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I must say that it is the best form of motivation ever! 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Decision making is both simple and efficient: there is no 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solely decision, feedback is always very important. People 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are willing to share their thoughts and solve the problems 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Community members are always benevolent: they are always 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to share their thoughts, review PRs, share advice, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept change requests or bug tickets. People are wiling to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept criticism without being defensive. The master word is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparency.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Last but not least, people behave friendly: public 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication (one of the ASF master words is "what did not 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen publicly never happened") forces people to communicate 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a positive way: for example by asking questions or 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting rather than affirming or asking for thoughts 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than disagreeing bluntly. An Open Source contributor 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always tries to put himself in the other person's shoes, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to not hurt his feelings and to not demotivate him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way we all would like people and society in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general to behave, no ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daily life
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years of applying this philosophy (I was told lately that it 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> felt almost like a religion 😄) at work on a full time basis, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you start applying it to daily life outside of work. It 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes your standard way of behaving in society: meritocracy 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes a second nature, for example you reward your home 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builders with gifts and public credit because they did a good 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job, you reward your kids for good school work etc... You 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also start to give time to others and share your knowledge, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentoring becomes a second nature.  Another big thing which 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is very visible is that you now always take good care to give 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive communication, leading to positive and constructive 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking. Positivism also becomes a second nature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never expires. So, if you gain committership on a project, or 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become a PMC member 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  or even an ASF member 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your whole career. This is an incredible credit and a 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tremendous trust mark !
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can be a bit challenging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temper a bit:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I felt intimidated. Community members are generally very 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senior level and very high skilled developers. But, remember 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is written above: every contribution is good to take. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, with time and mentoring, everyone deserves his place 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside the community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find where to start: some projects are old enough to have 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a large community so the amount of code is pretty high. But 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here again mentoring comes into play: mentors can give you 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pointers on hot topics, starter tickets or simply areas that 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need maintenance. And within time, you'll be recognized as an 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expert in a given area and the exciting subjects will come to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. And if you feel like you want to join a smaller 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community try joining a project which is still in the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  phase !
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> envy to join a Open Source community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and your views !
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after review, we could publish to the ASF blog in "Success 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at Apache" and I can definitely link to the ASF blog post in 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my personal blog so that there is only one publishing place.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be informed, but I totally agree, it would be redundant. 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I propose that we just link an article about the Apache 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Way at the beginning of my article. Do you have a good link 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to send me ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> article, that was indeed the whole point of the article !
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Etienne,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go-around.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally we'd post in one place. If not we can always 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promote it on Twitter and LinkedIn.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describing "The Apache Way" and focus on your experience 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead. The Apache Way has been covered, at length, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already. I'd focus on what your success looks like.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be great.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jzb
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <echauc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bertrand!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post and send a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne Chauchot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Etienne,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> the blog post ? ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I don't have decision power on what's published in 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > "Success at Apache"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > but I'd say go for it!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince people, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > and if they're
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > not convinced there's lots of other places where you can 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > post.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Bertrand
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
> >>>>>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> >>>>>>>>>> j...@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>

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