Thanks a lot Sally and Joe !

Best

Etienne.

Le 30/03/2022 à 00:29, Sally Khudairi a écrit :
Thank you again for the updates, Etienne.

I've published the blog post, which is available from:

 - The ASF's "Foundation" blog https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/success-at-apache-my-experience  - @TheASF Twitter feed https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/1508932452349263872  - The ASF on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6914698471895613440/

...plus sent to announce@ and our media/analyst and sponsors lists. This will appear on the apache.org homepage and archives within the hour.

We appreciate your contribution to the Success at Apache series!

Best,
Sally

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:53, Sally Khudairi wrote:
Actually ...every link from the gdoc points to the same Blogger URL.

Kindly advise/correct.

Thanks,
Sally

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 10:49, Sally Khudairi wrote:
Thank you, Etienne.

I'm getting ready to publish, but see that the link for "PMC Member" and "ASF Member" both point to https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949# which resolves to https://www.blogger.com/dashboard/reading

Something is wrong with that. I'm happy to remove the links altogether or change. What is in place isn't right.

Best,
Sally

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 09:36, Etienne Chauchot wrote:

Hi Sally,

Thank you very much ! Sorry I just saw your email. Here is the bio:

Etienne has been working in software engineering for more than 15 years and is now specialized in Big Data. He is an Open Source fan, and contributes to Apache projects such as Apache Beam, Apache Flink or Apache Spark. He is also the author of the "Big data Chronicles" blog (https://echauchot.blogspot.com/ <https://echauchot.blogspot.com/>). He is an Apache Beam committer and PMC member and also an Apache Foundation member.

Best

Etienne

Le 28/03/2022 à 13:48, Sally Khudairi a écrit :
Etienne --please send me a short bio (~50-75 words) so I can publish today.

Many thanks,
Sally

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:20, Sally Khudairi wrote:
Thank you, Etienne.

I'll get on this today and will let you know when we're live.

Best,
Sally

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:02, Etienne Chauchot wrote:

Hi Sally,

Joe and I have finished the final review round on the article. Can you publish it on the Success at Apache blog ?

A google doc was shared to you on: khuda...@gmail.com <mailto:khuda...@gmail.com>

Thanks

Best

Etienne Chauchot


Le 22/03/2022 à 17:25, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

Hi Joe,

Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is.

Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions !

Best

Etienne

Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
Hey all,

I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. Sorry for the delay, just got buried in my inbox.

Best,

jzb

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org <mailto:s...@apache.org>> wrote:

    Thank you, Etienne.

    Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience.

    Best,
    Sally

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    On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote:

    Hi Sally,

    Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone
    who can review my article and post it on Success at
    Apache blog ?

    Thanks

    Best

    Etienne

    Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the
    article draft you wanted that I sent last week ?

    Best

    Etienne

    Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if
    you need to discuss the content of this article.

    When the content looks good to you, we will publish on
    the Success at Apache blog and then I'll link to my
    personal blog.

    Best

    Etienne

    Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please
    review it and tell me if I can post it in "Success at
    Apache" and in my personnal blog also (through a link
    to the ASF) .

    Best

    Etienne

    title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect
    society ?*


    🕥 7 min.


        Introducion

    I have been working in software engineering for more
    than 15 years. I've always contributed to Open Source
    software as a user or a coder. But I've been
    contributing toASF
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>projects
    such asApache Flink
    
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    Beam
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>orApache
    Spark
    
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 for
    nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I
    find*the Apache Way* is almost the best way to
    collaborate on software engineering.

    I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a
    lot of good content about that already. I will rather
    link tothe official Apache documentation
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.
    I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't
    know it already.

    My point here is to describe the consequences of the
    Apache Way as I see them. Of course, every Apache
    community is different, but what I wanted to emphasize
    is that applying the Apache Way by the book could lead
    to what I'd call a "perfect society" even if this word
    seems a bit naive and over optimistic or even utopian.


        A perfect society


    /Actually, working with the Apache way was a
    revelation to me !/

    The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source
    Communities behave like a sort of perfect society:

    The community is governed by merit: everything is
    about what you do inside the community and at some
    point your efforts are noted and you get credit for
    your work by obtaining more rights (direct access to
    the project repositories, election ofcommitters
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>etc..).
    Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and
    voting for the best one leads to the best possible
    state of the project in the end. The best idea always
    wins in the long term.

        The software is not driven by money: no private
    concerns should take over. When the incubation process
    is well advanced, before graduation, theASF bord
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>makes
    sure that the aspiring community is well developed
    (users and developers communities are big enough),
    healthy and also not owned by a single company and its
    private financial considerations. This ensures best
    decisions for the software itself but also a long term
    maintenance of the software.

    It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is
    considered equal no matter your personal background,
    your education, ethnic or nationality, every
    contribution is good to take. Community members
    recognize that people skills may be different
    and complementary to theirs. So contributions might
    come from anyone, from anywhere and in any form (blog
    post, documentation, talk, code, website...)

    Communities are welcoming: they always search for new
    talents to join their forces. Be welcoming is always
    very important to build and grow a community. The Open
    Source community is also a great place for people to
    grow. The way people collaborate is generally by
    mentoring. Experienced contributors help new comers or
    experts share their thoughts with others. It is really
    also a good way for mentors to share their passion and
    inspire mentorees. Mentoring is even in the DNA of the
    ASF starting withthe incubator
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
 when
    the podling community profits from the experience and
    advice of a mentor to grow in the Apache Way and
    become atop level project
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>.


        Communities are self-organised: there is no
    manager but only technical leaders and mentors. People
    are self-motivated and I must say that it is the best
    form of motivation ever! Decision making is both
    simple and efficient: there is no solely decision,
    feedback is always very important. People are willing
    to share their thoughts and solve the problems together.

    Community members are always benevolent: they are
    always willing to share their thoughts, review PRs,
    share advice, accept change requests or bug tickets.
    People are wiling to accept criticism without being
    defensive. The master word is transparency.

        Last but not least, people behave friendly: public
    communication (one of the ASF master words is "what
    did not happen publicly never happened") forces people
    to communicate in a positive way: for example by
    asking questions or suggesting rather than affirming
    or asking for thoughts rather than disagreeing
    bluntly. An Open Source contributor always tries to
    put himself in the other person's shoes, trying to not
    hurt his feelings and to not demotivate him.

    => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it
    is the way we all would like people and society in
    general to behave, no ?


        Daily life


    The funny thing is that it goes even further, after
    some years of applying this philosophy (I was told
    lately that it felt almost like a religion 😄) at work
    on a full time basis, you start applying it to daily
    life outside of work. It becomes your standard way of
    behaving in society: meritocracy becomes a second
    nature, for example you reward your home builders with
    gifts and public credit because they did a good job,
    you reward your kids for good school work etc... You
    also start to give time to others and share your
    knowledge, mentoring becomes a second nature.Another
    big thing which is very visible is that you now always
    take good care to give positive communication, leading
    to positive and constructive thinking. Positivism also
    becomes a second nature.

        On a professional basis, an important thing is
    that merit never expires. So, if you gain
    committership on a project, or become aPMC member
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>or
    even anASF member
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>,
    it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your
    pairs for your whole career. This is an incredible
    credit and a tremendous trust mark !


        Can be a bit challenging


    In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I
    need to temper a bit:

    I remember when I first joined an Open Source
    community, I felt intimidated. Community members are
    generally very senior level and very high skilled
    developers. But, remember what is written above: every
    contribution is good to take. And, with time and
    mentoring, everyone deserves his place inside the
    community.

        The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I
    joined is to find where to start: some projects are
    old enough to have a large community so the amount of
    code is pretty high. But here again mentoring comes
    into play: mentors can give you pointers on hot
    topics, starter tickets or simply areas that need
    maintenance. And within time, you'll be recognized as
    an expert in a given area and the exciting subjects
    will come to you. And if you feel like you want to
    join a smaller community try joining a project which
    is still in the incubator
    
<https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>
 phase
    !


        Conclusion


    I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave
    you the envy to join a Open Source community.




    Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :

    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for your answer and your views !

    Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before
    publishing. Then, after review, we could publish to
    the ASF blog in "Success at Apache" and I can
    definitely link to the ASF blog post in my personal
    blog so that there is only one publishing place.

    Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new
    comers to be informed, but I totally agree, it would
    be redundant. So I propose that we just link an
    article about the Apache Way at the beginning of my
    article. Do you have a good link to send me ?

    I'll then describe my experience in the continuation
    of the article, that was indeed the whole point of
    the article !

    WDYT ?

    Thanks.

    Etienne.

    Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
    Hi Etienne,

    Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the
    first go-around.

    Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site?
    Ideally we'd post in one place. If not we can always
    promote it on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from
    describing "The Apache Way" and focus on your
    experience instead. The Apache Way has been covered,
    at length, already. I'd focus on what your success
    looks like.

    Describing how The Apache Way has informed your
    success would be great.

    Thanks!

    jzb

    On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot
    <echauc...@apache.org <mailto:echauc...@apache.org>>
    wrote:

        Hi Bertrand!

        Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my
        personal blog post and send a
        link here.

        Best

        Etienne Chauchot

        Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
        > Hi Etienne,
        >
        > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne
        Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org
        <mailto:echauc...@apache.org>> a écrit :
        >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start
        writing the blog post ? ...
        > I don't have decision power on what's
        published in "Success at Apache"
        > but I'd say go for it!
        >
        > An actual draft is IMO the best way to
        convince people, and if they're
        > not convinced there's lots of other places
        where you can post.
        >
        > -Bertrand



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