Thank you, Etienne. I'm getting ready to publish, but see that the link for "PMC Member" and "ASF Member" both point to https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949# which resolves to https://www.blogger.com/dashboard/reading
Something is wrong with that. I'm happy to remove the links altogether or change. What is in place isn't right. Best, Sally - - - Vice President Sponsor Relations The Apache Software Foundation Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, at 09:36, Etienne Chauchot wrote: > Hi Sally, > > Thank you very much ! Sorry I just saw your email. Here is the bio: > > Etienne has been working in software engineering for more than 15 years and > is now specialized in Big Data. He is an Open Source fan, and contributes to > Apache projects such as Apache Beam, Apache Flink or Apache Spark. He is also > the author of the "Big data Chronicles" blog > (https://echauchot.blogspot.com/). He is an Apache Beam committer and PMC > member and also an Apache Foundation member. > > Best > > Etienne > > Le 28/03/2022 à 13:48, Sally Khudairi a écrit : >> Etienne --please send me a short bio (~50-75 words) so I can publish today. >> >> Many thanks, >> Sally >> >> - - - >> Vice President Sponsor Relations >> The Apache Software Foundation >> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:20, Sally Khudairi wrote: >>> Thank you, Etienne. >>> >>> I'll get on this today and will let you know when we're live. >>> >>> Best, >>> Sally >>> >>> - - - >>> Vice President Sponsor Relations >>> The Apache Software Foundation >>> >>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, at 05:02, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >>>> Hi Sally, >>>> >>>> Joe and I have finished the final review round on the article. Can you >>>> publish it on the Success at Apache blog ? >>>> >>>> A google doc was shared to you on: khuda...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> Etienne Chauchot >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:25, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>> >>>>> Don't worry for the delay, I know what it is. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time and for all your suggestions ! >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> >>>>> Etienne >>>>> >>>>> Le 22/03/2022 à 17:13, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've taken a pass at editing this and it's almost ready to go. Sorry for >>>>>> the delay, just got buried in my inbox. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> jzb >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:27 PM Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Thank you, Etienne. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me see what we can do. I appreciate your patience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Sally >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - - - >>>>>>> Vice President Sponsor Relations >>>>>>> The Apache Software Foundation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org <mailto:sk%40apache.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 10:54, Etienne Chauchot wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Sally, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joe seems very busy lately, can you point me to someone who can review >>>>>>>> my article and post it on Success at Apache blog ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 17/03/2022 à 09:20, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry to ping you but have you had time to review the article draft >>>>>>>>> you wanted that I sent last week ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 14/03/2022 à 15:18, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't hesitate to ping me on the ASF slack channel if you need to >>>>>>>>>> discuss the content of this article. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When the content looks good to you, we will publish on the Success >>>>>>>>>> at Apache blog and then I'll link to my personal blog. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le 10/03/2022 à 15:22, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is draft that I've promised. Can you please review it and tell >>>>>>>>>>> me if I can post it in "Success at Apache" and in my personnal blog >>>>>>>>>>> also (through a link to the ASF) . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Etienne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> title: *My experience with the Apache Way: a perfect society ?* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 🕥 7 min. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Introducion >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have been working in software engineering for more than 15 >>>>>>>>>>> years. I've always contributed to Open Source software as a user or >>>>>>>>>>> a coder. But I've been contributing to ASF >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> projects such as Apache Flink >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, >>>>>>>>>>> Apache Beam >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> or Apache Spark >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> for nearly 6 years. It is long enough for me to say that I find >>>>>>>>>>> *the Apache Way* is almost the best way to collaborate on software >>>>>>>>>>> engineering. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will not describe the Apache way here as there are a lot of >>>>>>>>>>> good content about that already. I will rather link to the official >>>>>>>>>>> Apache documentation >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>. >>>>>>>>>>> I humbly suggest that you read what it is if you don't know it >>>>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My point here is to describe the consequences of the Apache Way >>>>>>>>>>> as I see them. Of course, every Apache community is different, but >>>>>>>>>>> what I wanted to emphasize is that applying the Apache Way by the >>>>>>>>>>> book could lead to what I'd call a "perfect society" even if this >>>>>>>>>>> word seems a bit naive and over optimistic or even utopian. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A perfect society >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Actually, working with the Apache way was a revelation to me !* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Apache Way leads in many ways to Open Source Communities behave >>>>>>>>>>> like a sort of perfect society: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The community is governed by merit: everything is about what >>>>>>>>>>> you do inside the community and at some point your efforts are >>>>>>>>>>> noted and you get credit for your work by obtaining more rights >>>>>>>>>>> (direct access to the project repositories, election of committers >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> etc..). Merit also drives decisions, discussing solutions and >>>>>>>>>>> voting for the best one leads to the best possible state of the >>>>>>>>>>> project in the end. The best idea always wins in the long term. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The software is not driven by money: no private concerns should >>>>>>>>>>> take over. When the incubation process is well advanced, before >>>>>>>>>>> graduation, the ASF bord >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> makes sure that the aspiring community is well developed (users >>>>>>>>>>> and developers communities are big enough), healthy and also not >>>>>>>>>>> owned by a single company and its private financial considerations. >>>>>>>>>>> This ensures best decisions for the software itself but also a long >>>>>>>>>>> term maintenance of the software. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is inclusive: every voice matters, everyone is considered >>>>>>>>>>> equal no matter your personal background, your education, ethnic or >>>>>>>>>>> nationality, every contribution is good to take. Community members >>>>>>>>>>> recognize that people skills may be different and complementary to >>>>>>>>>>> theirs. So contributions might come from anyone, from anywhere and >>>>>>>>>>> in any form (blog post, documentation, talk, code, website...) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Communities are welcoming: they always search for new talents >>>>>>>>>>> to join their forces. Be welcoming is always very important to >>>>>>>>>>> build and grow a community. The Open Source community is also a >>>>>>>>>>> great place for people to grow. The way people collaborate is >>>>>>>>>>> generally by mentoring. Experienced contributors help new comers or >>>>>>>>>>> experts share their thoughts with others. It is really also a good >>>>>>>>>>> way for mentors to share their passion and inspire mentorees. >>>>>>>>>>> Mentoring is even in the DNA of the ASF starting with the incubator >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> when the podling community profits from the experience and advice >>>>>>>>>>> of a mentor to grow in the Apache Way and become a top level >>>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Communities are self-organised: there is no manager but only >>>>>>>>>>> technical leaders and mentors. People are self-motivated and I must >>>>>>>>>>> say that it is the best form of motivation ever! Decision making is >>>>>>>>>>> both simple and efficient: there is no solely decision, feedback is >>>>>>>>>>> always very important. People are willing to share their thoughts >>>>>>>>>>> and solve the problems together. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Community members are always benevolent: they are always >>>>>>>>>>> willing to share their thoughts, review PRs, share advice, accept >>>>>>>>>>> change requests or bug tickets. People are wiling to accept >>>>>>>>>>> criticism without being defensive. The master word is transparency. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Last but not least, people behave friendly: public >>>>>>>>>>> communication (one of the ASF master words is "what did not happen >>>>>>>>>>> publicly never happened") forces people to communicate in a >>>>>>>>>>> positive way: for example by asking questions or suggesting rather >>>>>>>>>>> than affirming or asking for thoughts rather than disagreeing >>>>>>>>>>> bluntly. An Open Source contributor always tries to put himself in >>>>>>>>>>> the other person's shoes, trying to not hurt his feelings and to >>>>>>>>>>> not demotivate him. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> => Considering all of this, what I can tell is that it is the way >>>>>>>>>>> we all would like people and society in >>>>>>>>>>> general to behave, no ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Daily life >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The funny thing is that it goes even further, after some years >>>>>>>>>>> of applying this philosophy (I was told lately that it felt almost >>>>>>>>>>> like a religion 😄) at work on a full time basis, you start applying >>>>>>>>>>> it to daily life outside of work. It becomes your standard way of >>>>>>>>>>> behaving in society: meritocracy becomes a second nature, for >>>>>>>>>>> example you reward your home builders with gifts and public credit >>>>>>>>>>> because they did a good job, you reward your kids for good school >>>>>>>>>>> work etc... You also start to give time to others and share your >>>>>>>>>>> knowledge, mentoring becomes a second nature. Another big thing >>>>>>>>>>> which is very visible is that you now always take good care to give >>>>>>>>>>> positive communication, leading to positive and constructive >>>>>>>>>>> thinking. Positivism also becomes a second nature. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On a professional basis, an important thing is that merit never >>>>>>>>>>> expires. So, if you gain committership on a project, or become a >>>>>>>>>>> PMC member >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> or even an ASF member >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#>, >>>>>>>>>>> it is for life ! So your skills are recognized by your pairs for >>>>>>>>>>> your whole career. This is an incredible credit and a tremendous >>>>>>>>>>> trust mark ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can be a bit challenging >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In order to avoid being seen as a total idealist 😉, I need to >>>>>>>>>>> temper a bit: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I first joined an Open Source community, I felt >>>>>>>>>>> intimidated. Community members are generally very senior level and >>>>>>>>>>> very high skilled developers. But, remember what is written above: >>>>>>>>>>> every contribution is good to take. And, with time and mentoring, >>>>>>>>>>> everyone deserves his place inside the community. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The other thing I felt a bit difficult when I joined is to find >>>>>>>>>>> where to start: some projects are old enough to have a large >>>>>>>>>>> community so the amount of code is pretty high. But here again >>>>>>>>>>> mentoring comes into play: mentors can give you pointers on hot >>>>>>>>>>> topics, starter tickets or simply areas that need maintenance. And >>>>>>>>>>> within time, you'll be recognized as an expert in a given area and >>>>>>>>>>> the exciting subjects will come to you. And if you feel like you >>>>>>>>>>> want to join a smaller community try joining a project which is >>>>>>>>>>> still in the incubator >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/1438124655819523792/141840252120770949#> >>>>>>>>>>> phase ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Conclusion >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope you enjoyed these insights and I hope it gave you the envy >>>>>>>>>>> to join a Open Source community. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 25/02/2022 à 09:38, Etienne Chauchot a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joe, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your answer and your views ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll send a draft webpage here before publishing. Then, after >>>>>>>>>>>> review, we could publish to the ASF blog in "Success at Apache" >>>>>>>>>>>> and I can definitely link to the ASF blog post in my personal blog >>>>>>>>>>>> so that there is only one publishing place. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the Apache Way, I mentioned it only for new comers to be >>>>>>>>>>>> informed, but I totally agree, it would be redundant. So I propose >>>>>>>>>>>> that we just link an article about the Apache Way at the beginning >>>>>>>>>>>> of my article. Do you have a good link to send me ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll then describe my experience in the continuation of the >>>>>>>>>>>> article, that was indeed the whole point of the article ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 19:23, Joe Brockmeier a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Etienne, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response - missed this the first go-around. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you shoot a draft *before* posting to your site? Ideally we'd >>>>>>>>>>>>> post in one place. If not we can always promote it on Twitter and >>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From the initial email, though - I'd steer away from describing >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Apache Way" and focus on your experience instead. The Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>> Way has been covered, at length, already. I'd focus on what your >>>>>>>>>>>>> success looks like. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Describing how The Apache Way has informed your success would be >>>>>>>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jzb >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:52 AM Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>>> <echauc...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bertrand! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. I totally agree. I'll post on my personal blog post and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2022 à 10:48, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Etienne, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Le ven. 18 févr. 2022 à 10:43, Etienne Chauchot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <echauc...@apache.org> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ...Any news about this proposal ? Can I start writing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> blog post ? ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I don't have decision power on what's published in "Success at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Apache" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > but I'd say go for it! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > An actual draft is IMO the best way to convince people, and if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > they're >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > not convinced there's lots of other places where you can post. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -Bertrand >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity >>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>>> Vice President Marketing & Publicity >>>>>> j...@apache.org >>
