I dont think modifying the UA is a good idea but I strongly believe that cordova needs to set *something* that is immediately available from browser JS on app load that says "hi you're running in cordova"
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1) Set a specific UA string like the wikimedia guys do (even tough they do > it for other reasons). > 2) I remember us talking about a capabilities api. Not sure what transpired > from that discussion. > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > > Back to our original thread. I'm seeing a couple of scenarios. > > > > 1. wants to do analytics reporting (needs user agent) > > 2. wants to do be capability responsive (needs to see if there are > > device apis, usually a specific capability/api combo such as camera) > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Simon MacDonald > > <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yup, window.open(url, "_blank") will load the InAppBrowser which is > > > basically a renamed ChildBrowser that actually follows a spec for > > > events. > > > Simon Mac Donald > > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote: > > >> In Gather we have a login page that uses childbrowser popup windows > for > > >> oauth if its running in phonegap or popup windows in javascript if in > > >> browser. It would be nice childbrowser polyfilled target="_blank" > > (which I > > >> understand is happening in the future) but as for now the heuristics > for > > >> detecting which strategy to use boil down to sniffing > > window.location.href > > >> which isn't ideal: > > >> > > >> - if I open my apps index.html in chrome it will have a file:// url > but > > >> wont be in phonegap. > > >> - if I hardcode a domain into my app so that it knows if it is running > > from > > >> a server its another thing to remember to update every time the domain > > name > > >> changes > > >> - I already do conditional loading of stylesheets and JS based on user > > >> agent. I think it would be super useful if there was a user agent > > >> equivalent for cordova so the code could decide what to do based on > > >> environment and not guesses based on href > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis > ultimately? > > >>> > > >>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis <curtis.br...@gmail.com > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see if it is > > >>> > running in cordova webview. If it is loading a remote url with > > remote > > >>> > cordova.js, then the native side will become available well before > > >>> > cordova.js finished loading. So, I would either check for > > >>> > device.cordova or register for deviceready and wait for it to fire. > > >>> > > > >>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gord Tanner <gtan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> >> +1 > > >>> >> > > >>> >> This isn't a platform issue but rather a developer issue > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Sent from my iPhone > > >>> >> > > >>> >> On 2012-11-30, at 7:11 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >> > > >>> >>> Presumably the developer knows the url of their own server, so > > >>> >>> wouldn't it be easier to just test for that in window.location? > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> >>>> So the bigger question then is how to handle the differences ... > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> > wrote: > > >>> >>>>> It is to run a single codebase (or as close to it as possible > > minus > > >>> the > > >>> >>>>> differences in cordova.js) across web and cordova apps. > > >>> >>>>> > > >>> >>>>> On 11/30/12 4:02 PM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> Can we back up and discuss the goal? > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> Is it to use the same code on the server + inside an app ( > that > > is > > >>> >>>>>> packaged for multiple platforms ) ? > > >>> >>>>>> OR > > >>> >>>>>> Is it to load an app on multiple devices all served by the > same > > >>> server? > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> >>>>>>> Its yucky and may break in a future platform version, but > since > > >>> each > > >>> >>>>>>> platform requires its own cordova.js -- then each platform > > could > > >>> define > > >>> >>>>>>> its > > >>> >>>>>>> own cordova.isWebView? > > >>> >>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>> wp7 is x-wmapp > > >>> >>>>>>> iOS is file:// > > >>> >>>>>>> BB is http://localhost > > >>> >>>>>>> Android is ? > > >>> >>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jesse < > > purplecabb...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> >>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> WP7 app is loaded from x-wmapp1:/ > > >>> >>>>>>>> WP8 app is loaded from x-wmapp0:/ > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> So file:// will not work > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> There are probably numerous other approches ... > > >>> >>>>>>>> deviceready will/should never fire, but that is difficult to > > test > > >>> for, > > >>> >>>>>>>> because it could just be taking a real long time. > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> I see many issues with this though: > > >>> >>>>>>>> - each platform still requires it's own cordova.js, so this > > would > > >>> only > > >>> >>>>>>>> work with 1 platform + a webserver, so no idea we come up > for > > this > > >>> >>>>>>>> will solve the bigger problem. > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> >>>>>>>>> document.location starts with http://localhost OR starts > > with > > >>> file:// > > >>> >>>>>>>> then? > > >>> >>>>>>>>> ;) > > >>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, any js variable that we could set can be > > overridden > > >>> of > > >>> >>>>>>>> course. > > >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> I think in BB WEbWorks you get > > >>> http://localhost/somethingsoemthing > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/12 3:35 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "how do we know if we're in cordova or not?" --> > > >>> document.location > > >>> >>>>>>>> starts > > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> with file:// ? > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>>> -- > > >>> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage > > >>> >>>>>>>> risingj.com > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>> -- > > >>> >>>>>> @purplecabbage > > >>> >>>>>> risingj.com > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> -- > > >>> >>>> @purplecabbage > > >>> >>>> risingj.com > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> -- > > >>> >>> @purplecabbage > > >>> >>> risingj.com > > >>> > > >
