Is what people in the browser wanting the deviceready event to fire? Sent from my iPhone
On 2012-12-03, at 5:54 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote: > I dont think modifying the UA is a good idea but I strongly believe that > cordova needs to set *something* that is immediately available from browser > JS on app load that says "hi you're running in cordova" > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 1) Set a specific UA string like the wikimedia guys do (even tough they do >> it for other reasons). >> 2) I remember us talking about a capabilities api. Not sure what transpired >> from that discussion. >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >>> Back to our original thread. I'm seeing a couple of scenarios. >>> >>> 1. wants to do analytics reporting (needs user agent) >>> 2. wants to do be capability responsive (needs to see if there are >>> device apis, usually a specific capability/api combo such as camera) >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Simon MacDonald >>> <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Yup, window.open(url, "_blank") will load the InAppBrowser which is >>>> basically a renamed ChildBrowser that actually follows a spec for >>>> events. >>>> Simon Mac Donald >>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote: >>>>> In Gather we have a login page that uses childbrowser popup windows >> for >>>>> oauth if its running in phonegap or popup windows in javascript if in >>>>> browser. It would be nice childbrowser polyfilled target="_blank" >>> (which I >>>>> understand is happening in the future) but as for now the heuristics >> for >>>>> detecting which strategy to use boil down to sniffing >>> window.location.href >>>>> which isn't ideal: >>>>> >>>>> - if I open my apps index.html in chrome it will have a file:// url >> but >>>>> wont be in phonegap. >>>>> - if I hardcode a domain into my app so that it knows if it is running >>> from >>>>> a server its another thing to remember to update every time the domain >>> name >>>>> changes >>>>> - I already do conditional loading of stylesheets and JS based on user >>>>> agent. I think it would be super useful if there was a user agent >>>>> equivalent for cordova so the code could decide what to do based on >>>>> environment and not guesses based on href >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis >> ultimately? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis <curtis.br...@gmail.com >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see if it is >>>>>>> running in cordova webview. If it is loading a remote url with >>> remote >>>>>>> cordova.js, then the native side will become available well before >>>>>>> cordova.js finished loading. So, I would either check for >>>>>>> device.cordova or register for deviceready and wait for it to fire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gord Tanner <gtan...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This isn't a platform issue but rather a developer issue >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2012-11-30, at 7:11 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Presumably the developer knows the url of their own server, so >>>>>>>>> wouldn't it be easier to just test for that in window.location? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> So the bigger question then is how to handle the differences ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> It is to run a single codebase (or as close to it as possible >>> minus >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> differences in cordova.js) across web and cordova apps. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/12 4:02 PM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can we back up and discuss the goal? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it to use the same code on the server + inside an app ( >> that >>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> packaged for multiple platforms ) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> OR >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it to load an app on multiple devices all served by the >> same >>>>>> server? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Its yucky and may break in a future platform version, but >> since >>>>>> each >>>>>>>>>>>>> platform requires its own cordova.js -- then each platform >>> could >>>>>> define >>>>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>>>> own cordova.isWebView? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wp7 is x-wmapp >>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS is file:// >>>>>>>>>>>>> BB is http://localhost >>>>>>>>>>>>> Android is ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jesse < >>> purplecabb...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WP7 app is loaded from x-wmapp1:/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WP8 app is loaded from x-wmapp0:/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So file:// will not work >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are probably numerous other approches ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deviceready will/should never fire, but that is difficult to >>> test >>>>>> for, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it could just be taking a real long time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see many issues with this though: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - each platform still requires it's own cordova.js, so this >>> would >>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with 1 platform + a webserver, so no idea we come up >> for >>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will solve the bigger problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document.location starts with http://localhost OR starts >>> with >>>>>> file:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case, any js variable that we could set can be >>> overridden >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> course. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think in BB WEbWorks you get >>>>>> http://localhost/somethingsoemthing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/12 3:35 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "how do we know if we're in cordova or not?" --> >>>>>> document.location >>>>>>>>>>>>>> starts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with file:// ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> risingj.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage >>>>>>>>>>>> risingj.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage >>>>>>>>>> risingj.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage >>>>>>>>> risingj.com >>
