So, would that not be deviceready? (I get that those apps that run in browser probably fake this event but, if thats the case, then the faking would be a userland place to put that sort of thing.)
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote: > I dont think modifying the UA is a good idea but I strongly believe that > cordova needs to set *something* that is immediately available from browser > JS on app load that says "hi you're running in cordova" > > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 1) Set a specific UA string like the wikimedia guys do (even tough they do >> it for other reasons). >> 2) I remember us talking about a capabilities api. Not sure what transpired >> from that discussion. >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >> > Back to our original thread. I'm seeing a couple of scenarios. >> > >> > 1. wants to do analytics reporting (needs user agent) >> > 2. wants to do be capability responsive (needs to see if there are >> > device apis, usually a specific capability/api combo such as camera) >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Simon MacDonald >> > <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > Yup, window.open(url, "_blank") will load the InAppBrowser which is >> > > basically a renamed ChildBrowser that actually follows a spec for >> > > events. >> > > Simon Mac Donald >> > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote: >> > >> In Gather we have a login page that uses childbrowser popup windows >> for >> > >> oauth if its running in phonegap or popup windows in javascript if in >> > >> browser. It would be nice childbrowser polyfilled target="_blank" >> > (which I >> > >> understand is happening in the future) but as for now the heuristics >> for >> > >> detecting which strategy to use boil down to sniffing >> > window.location.href >> > >> which isn't ideal: >> > >> >> > >> - if I open my apps index.html in chrome it will have a file:// url >> but >> > >> wont be in phonegap. >> > >> - if I hardcode a domain into my app so that it knows if it is running >> > from >> > >> a server its another thing to remember to update every time the domain >> > name >> > >> changes >> > >> - I already do conditional loading of stylesheets and JS based on user >> > >> agent. I think it would be super useful if there was a user agent >> > >> equivalent for cordova so the code could decide what to do based on >> > >> environment and not guesses based on href >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis >> ultimately? >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis <curtis.br...@gmail.com >> > >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> > I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see if it is >> > >>> > running in cordova webview. If it is loading a remote url with >> > remote >> > >>> > cordova.js, then the native side will become available well before >> > >>> > cordova.js finished loading. So, I would either check for >> > >>> > device.cordova or register for deviceready and wait for it to fire. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gord Tanner <gtan...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >> +1 >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> This isn't a platform issue but rather a developer issue >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> On 2012-11-30, at 7:11 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >>> Presumably the developer knows the url of their own server, so >> > >>> >>> wouldn't it be easier to just test for that in window.location? >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >>>> So the bigger question then is how to handle the differences ... >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> >> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>> It is to run a single codebase (or as close to it as possible >> > minus >> > >>> the >> > >>> >>>>> differences in cordova.js) across web and cordova apps. >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> On 11/30/12 4:02 PM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Can we back up and discuss the goal? >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Is it to use the same code on the server + inside an app ( >> that >> > is >> > >>> >>>>>> packaged for multiple platforms ) ? >> > >>> >>>>>> OR >> > >>> >>>>>> Is it to load an app on multiple devices all served by the >> same >> > >>> server? >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >>>>>>> Its yucky and may break in a future platform version, but >> since >> > >>> each >> > >>> >>>>>>> platform requires its own cordova.js -- then each platform >> > could >> > >>> define >> > >>> >>>>>>> its >> > >>> >>>>>>> own cordova.isWebView? >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> wp7 is x-wmapp >> > >>> >>>>>>> iOS is file:// >> > >>> >>>>>>> BB is http://localhost >> > >>> >>>>>>> Android is ? >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jesse < >> > purplecabb...@gmail.com> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> WP7 app is loaded from x-wmapp1:/ >> > >>> >>>>>>>> WP8 app is loaded from x-wmapp0:/ >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> So file:// will not work >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> There are probably numerous other approches ... >> > >>> >>>>>>>> deviceready will/should never fire, but that is difficult to >> > test >> > >>> for, >> > >>> >>>>>>>> because it could just be taking a real long time. >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> I see many issues with this though: >> > >>> >>>>>>>> - each platform still requires it's own cordova.js, so this >> > would >> > >>> only >> > >>> >>>>>>>> work with 1 platform + a webserver, so no idea we come up >> for >> > this >> > >>> >>>>>>>> will solve the bigger problem. >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com >> > >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> document.location starts with http://localhost OR starts >> > with >> > >>> file:// >> > >>> >>>>>>>> then? >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> ;) >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, any js variable that we could set can be >> > overridden >> > >>> of >> > >>> >>>>>>>> course. >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> I think in BB WEbWorks you get >> > >>> http://localhost/somethingsoemthing >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/12 3:35 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "how do we know if we're in cordova or not?" --> >> > >>> document.location >> > >>> >>>>>>>> starts >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> with file:// ? >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> -- >> > >>> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage >> > >>> >>>>>>>> risingj.com >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> -- >> > >>> >>>>>> @purplecabbage >> > >>> >>>>>> risingj.com >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> -- >> > >>> >>>> @purplecabbage >> > >>> >>>> risingj.com >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> -- >> > >>> >>> @purplecabbage >> > >>> >>> risingj.com >> > >>> >> > >>
