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On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Terence M. Bandoian <[email protected]>wrote: > One nice thing about a mailing list is that it is delivered. The digest > form provides an uncluttered, passive means to stay aware of issues and > contribute when appropriate. > > I'm still new to this list but would like to listen in to the hangout if > that's possible. How would I find it on Google Hangout? > > -Terence Bandoian > > > > On 4/15/2014 9:31 AM, Lisa Seacat DeLuca wrote: > >> Michal +1. >> >> 1. Create a user@ group that we use to encourage users to post questions >> on SO. >> 2. Update website to remove reference to PhoneGap Google Group and >> include reference to the user@ mailing list >> 3. remove the IRC #phonegap reference as well >> >> Is everyone in agreement on this? Do we need to add an item to our >> hangout agenda today to discuss further? >> >> >> >> Lisa Seacat DeLuca >> Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | [email protected]_ <mailto: >> [email protected]>| | [email protected]_ <mailto:[email protected]>| >> _lisaseacat.com_ <http://www.lisaseacat.com/>| follow @LisaSeacat on >> twitter <www.twitter.com/LisaSeacat>| follow Lisa Seacat DeLuca on >> linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaseacat> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Michal Mocny <[email protected]> >> To: dev <[email protected]> >> Date: 04/15/2014 09:50 AM >> Subject: Re: support on phonegap/cordova? >> Sent by: [email protected] >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> So first: we don't *have* have to have users@ list. This isn't about >> "apache way" at all, this is in response to several user inquiries asking >> for a user list to point them to. >> >> Seems no one is looking forward to more email, but I'd be satisfied to >> have >> a users@ list from which we direct people over to SO, since some people >> don't yet know about SO and/or expect a mailing list when they go looking. >> >> The most important action item I think is to update the website, since >> right now we only list the dev, commits, and issues mailing lists listed, >> and a small note about the phonegap forum for user questions (and that was >> hard to find without grep-ing). >> >> -Michal >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Mike Billau <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > I think that between a users@ mailing list, a google group, an IRC >> room, >> > and StackOverflow, the best medium we can use to support our users is >> > StackOverflow. Joe makes great points about the benefits that >> StackOverflow >> > gives us that I don't see the other mediums providing. Sure the GG may >> be >> > searchable but not nearly as well as SO. Also, there are already a lot >> of >> > Cordova users helping each other out on SO (only 4 of the top 20 >> > "answerers" are on this list [1]) SO also will automatically switch >> > "phonegap" to "cordova" tag but still allow things like >> "phonegap-build" or >> > "phonegap-enterprise" or whatever - nothing against phonegap, this just >> > seems to be more inline with the "Apache Way" and would help Adobe >> support >> > find relevant issues to them while letting the the overall community >> work >> > on the more general support questions. >> > >> > If we have to have a users@, so be it, but we should make it a point to >> > answer all questions there with a link to the relevant Stack Overflow >> > answer. I think we should also be doing this on the google group too, >> but >> > I'll be the first to admit that I haven't been. >> > >> > Finally I know there is a lot of push back about "getting rid of / >> > encouraging less use of" the google group because a lot of people use it >> > and apparently get a lot of their issues fixed, however it seems like >> > either the majority of the questions never get answered, or they get >> > answered by a few users. We should maybe reach out to these power users >> and >> > explain to them the motivation behind trying to move all support off >> the GG >> > and into SO and encourage them to help with this transition. >> > >> > [1] http://stackoverflow.com/tags/cordova/topusers >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > The reasons I prefer stack overflow to users lists are as follows: >> > > >> > > 1. Most of our users aren't skilled enough to get on or off of a users >> > list >> > > 2. Stack Overflow's structure keeps things more professional than the >> > > mailing list. Personal attacks get downvoted on SO >> > > 3. Stack Overflow has better searchibility than a users list. >> > > >> > > If we have to have one because of the much loathed "Apache Way", so be >> > > it, but I don't see it being nearly as helpful as SO. >> > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Grieve <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > Most Apache projects have a users@ list for this purpose. Although >> SO >> > > often >> > > > yields better answers, I don't think it would hurt to have a >> > users@list. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Joe Bowser <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> This is a dev list, not a support list. I would recommend >> > StackOverflow. >> > > >> On Apr 9, 2014 3:16 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> > StackOverflow works really well as well. If it's a possible but >> in >> > the >> > > >> > framework or an Apache plugin though, this is the list :) >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Ray Camden <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > I'd use the Google Group: >> > > >> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/phonegap < >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/phonegap> >> >> > > >> > > ________________________________________ >> > > >> > > From: smo <[email protected]> >> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:35 AM >> > > >> > > To: [email protected] >> > > >> > > Subject: support on phonegap/cordova? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > hi >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > where must i post to get support on phonegap/cordova ios ? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > thanks >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >
